Dr. Paul Offit

I'm probably not the best person to answer that question. But more of a personal side.

I'm probably not the best person to answer that question. But more of a personal side.

I'm probably not the best person to answer that question. But more of a personal side.

No, I just haven't really followed it. I mean, I'm willing to accept that I'm not immortal because every story should have an end and who the hell wants to be immortal?

No, I just haven't really followed it. I mean, I'm willing to accept that I'm not immortal because every story should have an end and who the hell wants to be immortal?

No, I just haven't really followed it. I mean, I'm willing to accept that I'm not immortal because every story should have an end and who the hell wants to be immortal?

You know, I think it's basically an unregulated industry that's able to make claims, vague claims that are convincing. And I wish... I wish the word natural were applied more reasonably. I mean, at least from the infectious disease standpoint, Mother Nature has been trying to kill us ever since we crawled out of the ocean onto land. The term natural immunity has always bothered me, actually. Why?

You know, I think it's basically an unregulated industry that's able to make claims, vague claims that are convincing. And I wish... I wish the word natural were applied more reasonably. I mean, at least from the infectious disease standpoint, Mother Nature has been trying to kill us ever since we crawled out of the ocean onto land. The term natural immunity has always bothered me, actually. Why?

You know, I think it's basically an unregulated industry that's able to make claims, vague claims that are convincing. And I wish... I wish the word natural were applied more reasonably. I mean, at least from the infectious disease standpoint, Mother Nature has been trying to kill us ever since we crawled out of the ocean onto land. The term natural immunity has always bothered me, actually. Why?

Well, because it's fine as long as you live. I mean, I think actually if you get a COVID vaccine, you will have an immune response to that protein, the spike protein. If you're infected with COVID and you live, you'll have an immune response to all four proteins, including the nuclear protein, which is a major site for cytotoxic T-cell responses. Great, that's all great, but you have to live.

Well, because it's fine as long as you live. I mean, I think actually if you get a COVID vaccine, you will have an immune response to that protein, the spike protein. If you're infected with COVID and you live, you'll have an immune response to all four proteins, including the nuclear protein, which is a major site for cytotoxic T-cell responses. Great, that's all great, but you have to live.

Well, because it's fine as long as you live. I mean, I think actually if you get a COVID vaccine, you will have an immune response to that protein, the spike protein. If you're infected with COVID and you live, you'll have an immune response to all four proteins, including the nuclear protein, which is a major site for cytotoxic T-cell responses. Great, that's all great, but you have to live.

So I think we should call it survivor immunity. I just think that's the better term. Okay, that is a better term.

So I think we should call it survivor immunity. I just think that's the better term. Okay, that is a better term.

So I think we should call it survivor immunity. I just think that's the better term. Okay, that is a better term.

They're both excellent. But I really do think that if you've gotten the vaccine and you get a natural infection and you live, you're actually better off. So getting both. Yeah, because you've had, now there's immune response to all four proteins.

They're both excellent. But I really do think that if you've gotten the vaccine and you get a natural infection and you live, you're actually better off. So getting both. Yeah, because you've had, now there's immune response to all four proteins.

They're both excellent. But I really do think that if you've gotten the vaccine and you get a natural infection and you live, you're actually better off. So getting both. Yeah, because you've had, now there's immune response to all four proteins.

That's why the rates of hospitalizations and death are so low. And how come- They are much, much lower than where they were before.

That's why the rates of hospitalizations and death are so low. And how come- They are much, much lower than where they were before.