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Dr. Paul Offit

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The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

One paper called it stall A, another one called it like stall 42 or something, but it was that stall where it started. Because otherwise you have to believe, one, that's something that's never happened before, which is that a pandemic virus was created in a laboratory. We've had a lot of pandemics. This has never happened before.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

One paper called it stall A, another one called it like stall 42 or something, but it was that stall where it started. Because otherwise you have to believe, one, that's something that's never happened before, which is that a pandemic virus was created in a laboratory. We've had a lot of pandemics. This has never happened before.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

Two, it had to happen in the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is where people saying it happened. And then- So they created it, and then they just happened to go right to a place where you would have expected an animal or human spillover event to occur instead of the 10,000 other places they could have gone in Wuhan to do this.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

Two, it had to happen in the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is where people saying it happened. And then- So they created it, and then they just happened to go right to a place where you would have expected an animal or human spillover event to occur instead of the 10,000 other places they could have gone in Wuhan to do this.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

Two, it had to happen in the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is where people saying it happened. And then- So they created it, and then they just happened to go right to a place where you would have expected an animal or human spillover event to occur instead of the 10,000 other places they could have gone in Wuhan to do this.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

And it had to be two people because it was two separate lineages, and they had to both go to that spot. The animal to human spillover events occur all the time. Ebola is a bad virus. HIV is a chimp virus. Flu is a bird virus. I mean, probably 70% of the pathogens that cause our disease came from animals. Why is it so surprising this one also came from animals? So we need to know that.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

And it had to be two people because it was two separate lineages, and they had to both go to that spot. The animal to human spillover events occur all the time. Ebola is a bad virus. HIV is a chimp virus. Flu is a bird virus. I mean, probably 70% of the pathogens that cause our disease came from animals. Why is it so surprising this one also came from animals? So we need to know that.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

And it had to be two people because it was two separate lineages, and they had to both go to that spot. The animal to human spillover events occur all the time. Ebola is a bad virus. HIV is a chimp virus. Flu is a bird virus. I mean, probably 70% of the pathogens that cause our disease came from animals. Why is it so surprising this one also came from animals? So we need to know that.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

I mean, this matters because China is culpable that they were selling at least 31 different species of animals illegally. They were housing them in unhygienic conditions. conditions. They were bringing them from all over China. And that's probably where that SARS-CoV-2 originally came from. It didn't come from right there. It came from many kilometers away.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

I mean, this matters because China is culpable that they were selling at least 31 different species of animals illegally. They were housing them in unhygienic conditions. conditions. They were bringing them from all over China. And that's probably where that SARS-CoV-2 originally came from. It didn't come from right there. It came from many kilometers away.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

I mean, this matters because China is culpable that they were selling at least 31 different species of animals illegally. They were housing them in unhygienic conditions. conditions. They were bringing them from all over China. And that's probably where that SARS-CoV-2 originally came from. It didn't come from right there. It came from many kilometers away.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

And I just think it's going to happen again. And China was xenophobic. They didn't want outside investigators to come in, which I think gave rise to a lot of these conspiracies. But you have serious citizens getting up in front of Congress saying, like Christopher Wray, from the FBI saying this is credible evidence. Come on, where's the evidence?

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

And I just think it's going to happen again. And China was xenophobic. They didn't want outside investigators to come in, which I think gave rise to a lot of these conspiracies. But you have serious citizens getting up in front of Congress saying, like Christopher Wray, from the FBI saying this is credible evidence. Come on, where's the evidence?

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

And I just think it's going to happen again. And China was xenophobic. They didn't want outside investigators to come in, which I think gave rise to a lot of these conspiracies. But you have serious citizens getting up in front of Congress saying, like Christopher Wray, from the FBI saying this is credible evidence. Come on, where's the evidence?

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

I mean, if you're gonna say something happened that never happened before, you should have some evidence rather, this is the Carl Sagan line, right? That extraordinary claims should be backed by extraordinary evidence. This is an extraordinary claim backed by innuendo and conspiracy. And what they did also this, sorry, one last thing. They killed all the animals, China killed all the animals.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

I mean, if you're gonna say something happened that never happened before, you should have some evidence rather, this is the Carl Sagan line, right? That extraordinary claims should be backed by extraordinary evidence. This is an extraordinary claim backed by innuendo and conspiracy. And what they did also this, sorry, one last thing. They killed all the animals, China killed all the animals.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

I mean, if you're gonna say something happened that never happened before, you should have some evidence rather, this is the Carl Sagan line, right? That extraordinary claims should be backed by extraordinary evidence. This is an extraordinary claim backed by innuendo and conspiracy. And what they did also this, sorry, one last thing. They killed all the animals, China killed all the animals.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

They didn't do that with SARS-1. With SARS-1, which happened in, I think, Foshan and then spread out, they didn't kill the animals. They let them continue to sell. So they were still there, and you could see that they were the ones who were infected. And an animal in those markets will have like 50 human contacts a day.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

They didn't do that with SARS-1. With SARS-1, which happened in, I think, Foshan and then spread out, they didn't kill the animals. They let them continue to sell. So they were still there, and you could see that they were the ones who were infected. And an animal in those markets will have like 50 human contacts a day.

The Checkup with Doctor Mike
Asking The Uncomfortable Questions About Vaccines | Dr. Paul Offit

They didn't do that with SARS-1. With SARS-1, which happened in, I think, Foshan and then spread out, they didn't kill the animals. They let them continue to sell. So they were still there, and you could see that they were the ones who were infected. And an animal in those markets will have like 50 human contacts a day.