Dr. Perry Share

Yeah.

It is.

And first, just to say, Elizabeth Malcolm sadly died last week.

Yeah, she's an Australian historian who had a great interest in Ireland.

Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that.

Yeah, I mean, she makes the point that the pub is really a 19th century invention.

I mean, there was things before like taverns and ale houses and shabines, of course, in Ireland.

And they were first brought together under legislation in the 17th century.

In 1635 was the first law, obviously by the English government at the time, that brought that in.

But in the 19th century, these sort of came together into what we would recognise today as a pub.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, that is a big difference that we have family owned pubs, which often are passed down through generations.

The only exception to that was Cork, actually, where Beamish's and Murphy's owned a lot of pubs in Cork.

And in fact, at one stage, most of the pubs in Cork were tied houses to those two breweries.

Those to try and keep Guinness out, wasn't it?

I'm not sure why they got involved in it.

Maybe they were influenced by the English model.

It's a good question why that happened.

But it did have an influence on Cork in a couple of ways.