Dr. Peter Attia

Let's say I said Tuesday because I'm sitting down with you.

Let's say I said Tuesday because I'm sitting down with you.

That's actually what I did. So having not thought about this, I just slept in till, I think my wife tried to get me out of bed at seven and I said, can you let me sleep till eight? So I didn't get up till eight. But last night, you're right. I had a very hard time going to bed. It was like 11 o'clock and I was still up meandering around. Yeah.

That's actually what I did. So having not thought about this, I just slept in till, I think my wife tried to get me out of bed at seven and I said, can you let me sleep till eight? So I didn't get up till eight. But last night, you're right. I had a very hard time going to bed. It was like 11 o'clock and I was still up meandering around. Yeah.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

And this is just adenosine building up?

And this is just adenosine building up?

Oh, hundreds. Yeah, I would need scientific notation to count them. It's so pathetic.

Oh, hundreds. Yeah, I would need scientific notation to count them. It's so pathetic.

Your adrenal glands still make cortisol.

Your adrenal glands still make cortisol.

Any rules about exercising? Do you have people that are showing up and you're going through your intake and you realize, based on their schedule, based on work, based on kids or other obligations, the only time they're going to get their workout in is in the evening? And is that counterproductive? Put it this way. If it is an issue, how do you adjust?

Any rules about exercising? Do you have people that are showing up and you're going through your intake and you realize, based on their schedule, based on work, based on kids or other obligations, the only time they're going to get their workout in is in the evening? And is that counterproductive? Put it this way. If it is an issue, how do you adjust?

Yeah. My brother-in-law plays in a men's hockey league and you only get ice time late at night. So I think they literally play Sundays at 11 PM or something. And he's always fried Monday because pretty hard to play a game of ice hockey and then fall asleep after that. So- I want to understand more what the spectrum of CBTI looks like.

Yeah. My brother-in-law plays in a men's hockey league and you only get ice time late at night. So I think they literally play Sundays at 11 PM or something. And he's always fried Monday because pretty hard to play a game of ice hockey and then fall asleep after that. So- I want to understand more what the spectrum of CBTI looks like.

I mean, your process sounds super dialed in, but also it's quite bespoke. You've brought a lot of your own expertise to it and you've created a system where you've got, we're going to do the intake. We're going to do these five sessions, which I think are group sessions, the way you described them. Then we do kind of the exit. you bring so much rigor to it.

I mean, your process sounds super dialed in, but also it's quite bespoke. You've brought a lot of your own expertise to it and you've created a system where you've got, we're going to do the intake. We're going to do these five sessions, which I think are group sessions, the way you described them. Then we do kind of the exit. you bring so much rigor to it.

Is that the way it is always done or are there CBTI therapists out there who function like psychotherapists and they say, yeah, we're just going to engage with each other until your problem is fixed and we'll see each other once a week or maybe once every other week. Everything you're doing sounds formulaic and I'd say that not in a bad way. I think that's probably a big part of its efficacy.

Is that the way it is always done or are there CBTI therapists out there who function like psychotherapists and they say, yeah, we're just going to engage with each other until your problem is fixed and we'll see each other once a week or maybe once every other week. Everything you're doing sounds formulaic and I'd say that not in a bad way. I think that's probably a big part of its efficacy.