Dr. Peter Attia

who is happy to change his or her mind in the presence of new information with no attachment to what has been said in the past. An advocate has to be driving policy and action, and sometimes they have to settle for the best you can do, any port in a storm. When you put those two hats on the same people, I worry that you lose all trust.

who is happy to change his or her mind in the presence of new information with no attachment to what has been said in the past. An advocate has to be driving policy and action, and sometimes they have to settle for the best you can do, any port in a storm. When you put those two hats on the same people, I worry that you lose all trust.

I do wish the medical community could have an open and honest discussion about that. I would say that not if, but when. We will have another pandemic. There's zero doubt in my mind.

I do wish the medical community could have an open and honest discussion about that. I would say that not if, but when. We will have another pandemic. There's zero doubt in my mind.

We will absolutely have another pandemic. I hope it is decades from now, but we will. I hope somebody will remember that lesson and say, we want our chief communicator of the state of the science to be completely uninvolved in telling the public what to do, simply there to report what we know today. Today, we think masks work. You know what?

We will absolutely have another pandemic. I hope it is decades from now, but we will. I hope somebody will remember that lesson and say, we want our chief communicator of the state of the science to be completely uninvolved in telling the public what to do, simply there to report what we know today. Today, we think masks work. You know what?

We just did a study and we realize they don't work worth a lick. Today, we believe vaccines prevent transmission. We just did a follow-up survey. They don't prevent transmission. It's okay. It's okay. I think that's a very forgivable position.

We just did a study and we realize they don't work worth a lick. Today, we believe vaccines prevent transmission. We just did a follow-up survey. They don't prevent transmission. It's okay. It's okay. I think that's a very forgivable position.

I don't have a solution to that. I mean, the great example, which is a very good example, and I don't know the solution, is in May of 2020, if you suggested that this came out of the Wuhan lab, I mean, you were kicked off social media, you were kicked off YouTube, you were in the doghouse. That was misinformation.

I don't have a solution to that. I mean, the great example, which is a very good example, and I don't know the solution, is in May of 2020, if you suggested that this came out of the Wuhan lab, I mean, you were kicked off social media, you were kicked off YouTube, you were in the doghouse. That was misinformation.

Well, I think almost any observer today would agree that that was actually information. But where do you draw the line? I don't have an insight. This is so far above my pay grade.

Well, I think almost any observer today would agree that that was actually information. But where do you draw the line? I don't have an insight. This is so far above my pay grade.

Actually, I'm glad you brought that up. I wanted to have a discussion about this. Okay, finish your point, and then I want to make a broader point about oncology.

Actually, I'm glad you brought that up. I wanted to have a discussion about this. Okay, finish your point, and then I want to make a broader point about oncology.

Yeah, I think that's a great point. I'm glad you brought the ivermectin and cancer thing up. So a couple of my patients, which is a statement, I'm going to acknowledge that my patients are educated and affluent people for the most part. A couple of my patients have sent me clips of various people claiming that ivermectin is curing people with stage four cancer.

Yeah, I think that's a great point. I'm glad you brought the ivermectin and cancer thing up. So a couple of my patients, which is a statement, I'm going to acknowledge that my patients are educated and affluent people for the most part. A couple of my patients have sent me clips of various people claiming that ivermectin is curing people with stage four cancer.

Now, because they're sending these to me in text and I'm really, really busy, I'm responding in a rather glib way, which is usually using phrases like, this is effing bullshit. But I usually follow it up a few minutes later with a text that says, happy to discuss. And usually they say, no, Peter, I just needed to know that this was nonsense.

Now, because they're sending these to me in text and I'm really, really busy, I'm responding in a rather glib way, which is usually using phrases like, this is effing bullshit. But I usually follow it up a few minutes later with a text that says, happy to discuss. And usually they say, no, Peter, I just needed to know that this was nonsense.

But I also agree that I don't think people should just be taking thing on faith. And I really want to be able to offer. So I think I made a note that actually I wanted to discuss this exact example. And hopefully we'll be able to clip this particular segment so people understand why this is such a idiotic statement.

But I also agree that I don't think people should just be taking thing on faith. And I really want to be able to offer. So I think I made a note that actually I wanted to discuss this exact example. And hopefully we'll be able to clip this particular segment so people understand why this is such a idiotic statement.