Dr. Peter Diamandis

And so when people talk about reversing their age, right, and this is something I've been focused on doing for myself, there are a number of things that can reverse your age to a younger epigenetic age. And those are the things I talk about in the book. It is exercise, sleep, diet, the supplements and meds you take, your mindset, your habits. It sounds really expensive to take care of yourself.

It's not economically expensive. There are some things that are expensive for sure. But you know, one thing I want everyone to take away from this conversation today is here are a number of things you can do effectively for free that can make a big difference, but you're not gonna do them unless you're motivated, right? It's all about that motivation. And the motivation here

should be, if I can keep myself in reasonably good health the next decade, there's this massive benefit that's gonna be paid out. And so I don't wanna be the last person to die before you reach longevity escape. Yeah, right. I mean, you had,

They don't have the role models, they're not in the wrong environment. Everything.

I'm getting more chronic fatigue.

How do I switch the mindset?

So when I talk about this with my Abundance community, my Fountain Life members, I'm saying, okay, listen, in your mind, there is a number. Each of us have a number of how long I'm going to live. Like it or not, You've got a number, right? And that number comes from someplace. It comes from, you know, your parents, your grandparents, the Bible, society, what you heard on CNN or whatever.

And you're tracking towards that number. I remember when I taught my nieces how to ride a bike, we were on a tennis court that didn't have a net. And there were two poles. in the court, right? And they kept on hitting the polls. And I'm like, what's going on here? It's like, you have to tie a tennis court here. You go around it. Yeah, yeah. It's because that's where they were looking.

That's where they were focusing. And so if you got a number that says, my dad made it to 80, 85, I hope I can make it there. Or the oldest person in my family was 75, so I hope I can make it there. you're gonna hit that number. And so you need to let go of that and getting you number.

Maybe. My medicines may be better. Right, exactly.

You know what? Let me provide context here. The average human lifespan for most of human existence for homo sapiens is 30. Wow. Right? So you and I'd be dead a while ago. Right.

So to frame this, and again, I talk about this, and I'm trying to provide the construct, mental construct, to change people's belief about what's possible for them, which is the number one thing to do, because if you believe it's different, you're then going to take these next steps, which make these things different for you.

So number one, 100,000, 200,000 years ago, before birth control, right, you were pregnant at age 12 or 13. Wow. It just was the case. And we actually, puberty's moved later over these last few hundred thousand years. Number two, by the time you were 26, 27, 28, you were a grandparent. Wow. Amazing. And before food was abundant, before we had McDonald's and Whole Foods, it was scarce.

And the worst thing you could do if you wanted to perpetuate your species was stay alive and steal food from your grandchildren's mouths. So you would die. Wow. Right. So this evolutionary context is important here. And if you look at the human body, we peak in functional biological age at around 27, and it's a slow decrease. What does that mean?

It means our immune system begins to decrease in its power. We become immuno-exhausted. Our muscle mass comes down. We have sarcopenia, right? So last year, I went heads down to add 10 pounds of muscle mass, right? And working out every day, making it. Now my job is I got what I wanted. Now it's to maintain it. And I think about that a lot.

Thank you.

And you look amazing. Thank you. And these are creating habits in your life. Okay, so first context here evolutionarily is it's downhill after call it 30. Your hormones, your metabolism, everything is dropping because there was never any reason to maintain it. You were dead.

Second thing, so understanding that is important, that you've gotta say, I refuse to let that be the case, and I'm gonna do everything I can to change it. But you need some motivational hooks going forward. What's that? First of all, should realize that there are species of whales on earth, the bowhead whale, that can live for 200 years. That's crazy. It's amazing, right?

They have found whales with harpoons in them and been able to carbon date... Come on. Yes. That is fascinating. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. And then Greenland sharks can live to 500 years old and have babies at 200 years old. That's nuts. Yeah, it is crazy. But we're humans, we're not whales. We're not whales, we're not sharks. But the point I'm saying is that

these large mammals in case they can live that long. There's a proof case. The second thing to realize is there are people who live routinely in good neurocognitive and cardiovascular health and metabolic health till over a hundred. They're sharp, they're at work, they're capable, they're motivated. You pull up still, all that stuff. Yeah. Why can they and why can't others? There's a reason.

It's not random, right? And so we're beginning to discover that. We're beginning to discover what's the underlying metabolic, genetic, all of those things. And we now have the tools to edit those things and change them. I think that's the important, if we understand why something exists and then how to transform what you've been given to match that, we can begin to see an extension of healthspan.

I... I never thought about... Listen, I went to medical school. I was at MIT as an undergrad studying molecular biology. And then I went to Harvard for medical school to make my parents happy. I had promised them I would do this. But then my fourth year of medical school, I had two companies that I was running, a rocket company and a space university.

And I thought about longevity to some degree, but it was not my driver. And I was focused on space. And I was focused on opening the space frontier. And then I was focused on, through the XPRIZE and Singularity University, focused on solving grand challenges. And it was really the last decade that I'm like, oh, my God, the biggest grand challenge is can we extend the healthy human lifespan, right?

The greatest wealth is your health. I love the saying, the man or woman who has their health has a thousand dreams. The man or woman who does not has but one. Yes. And it's so true. And so I started saying, oh my God, this, I love impact. I love, how can I change lives? How can I support and uplift? And helping people see this future and see what is possible for them for me is my goal.

And in this book- Did you ever fear death though? Like around- I lost my fear of death doing DMT, dimethyltryptophan, right? Which is the active ingredients in ayahuasca. And I don't want to go down that journey too much. How old were you? This was seven, eight years ago.

But it was a... It's a dissolution of the ego and a connection with a universe of love and God at its most epic proportion. And it was extremely powerful for me. And I lost that fear of death. One of my motivations in longevity is my why. And so coming back to this, it's like, To get people to put in the work to live a longer, healthier life, you've got to have a reason for it.

And when I work with my Abundance360 community, my fountain community, I'm like, okay, let's discuss this. If you had 10 healthy years, what would you do with it? If you had 20 healthy additional years, what would you do with it? When I ask people if you had 50 additional years, their mind breaks. It's like you can make up stuff for 10 or 20 years, but 50 years?

like it becomes really hard for people to think that far out. And I find that fascinating. But if you've got a why, and one of my whys was, you know, I've been a space cadet since I was born in 61, Apollo lands on the moon in 69, Star Trek comes out in 67, all those things influenced my life. And it's like, We're on the verge of humanity becoming a multi-planetary species.

We're just talking about the SpaceX launch, going to the moon on a recurring basis. We're going to go to Mars. It's amazing. It's like the kid in the candy store here is like, I wanna see as much of that as I can. It's one of my whys is to be here alive, to see humanity become a multi-planetary species, to be part of that. I want to set up the first town on the moon. I want to mine asteroids.

I mean, crazy, right? But at the end of the day, this is the future we have potential for, and you can dream big if you've got those extra decades.

I don't know, I think I would sort of be tracking into my 80s. Really? Yeah.

You have to believe this is possible. One of the reasons I wrote this longevity guidebook was to give people an understanding that what's possible. And then you need to have the mindset of like, so for me, Open the Space Frontier, I have two 13-year-old boys. I had my kids when I was 50. And that's one of the, I think one of the great longevity therapeutics is having young kids.

And I want to see them, you know, I want to meet their kids and their grandkids. And And there's lots of other whys that I've created for myself, but it has to do with, I think this is the most extraordinary time ever to be alive. And I want to see as much of that as I can and live in that future. So that why is important. You know, when it's six or 7 a.m. in the morning,

and it's comfy in bed and you're a little bit groggy and you would set yourself up to go to the gym. Do you work out in the morning? Yeah, it's hard to do it at night. Yeah, it is. But the why of getting out of bed to go and work out needs to be there, right? I mean, if you're 25 and you're dating, you know, your why might be procreation or landing that partner. But then when you're

At night, you're at a restaurant, you've got this basket of bread in front of you. And this glass of wine brought out before any of your food lands. And you start chomping down on that and spiking your blood sugar. Or at the end of dinner, when this dessert comes and lays in front of you and it's sitting there staring at you, saying no, you need a why.

You need a why and you need habits that are gonna serve you. And you know this.

So one of the things I talk about in the mindset chapter here, right? And there's a chapter on mindset and the hormones of happiness. is that our brains, we're all hearing about large language models and neural nets and AI all the time. Our brains are neural nets, right?

My goal for anybody watching us here is that they walk away with immediately useful things they can do to maintain that vitality and energy and that they are motivated more than ever before to take care of themselves because something amazing is coming down the pike. in terms of science right now. And so I wanted to lay that out there.

We have a hundred billion neurons, a hundred trillion synaptic connections that shapes everything you do, see, feel, hear, all of that is upstairs in your three pound mass of jelly. And our minds and our mindset is being crafted and shaped every day.

The way that Google and OpenAI and Anthropic and XAI, how these companies shape their large language models is by showing them data, data, data, and they're collecting. So if you want to train a neural net how to recognize a cat, you show it photo of a cat after a cat after a cat, and it finally learns furry pointy ears, whiskers, tail.

But at the end of the day, if you show it a dog, it's never seen a dog before, it's gonna say it's a cat, right? So the question is, how are we training our neural nets? And we train our neural nets, our mindset about what we believe is possible for us, in the world, in our happiness, in our longevity, by virtue of who you hang out with, right? What you listen to.

Congratulations on listening to this podcast. What you read, right? What's on your walls. All of these things shape how you think.

And so if you're watching, you know, the crisis news network, what I call CNN, every night where you're getting every murder, every crooked politician, you know, into your living room hour after hour after hour and living color because their business model is to deliver your eyeballs to their advertisers. We pay 10 times more attention to negative news than positive news, right?

It's just, so we're being just inundated by negative news. And if you're old and you're hanging out with people who are dying and reading the obituaries, you're just compounding this. And you're like, I must not have much time left. Most of my friends are dying.

You're fully sympathetic instead of parasympathetic. Yes. So these things are critically important and things that we can change. I mean, you know, I talk about a few of these things, like in the chapter on diet, right, a few simple things that I want to share that people can implement right now. When you sit down at dinner tonight, take a few deep breaths, just in and out.

That puts you instantly into what's called a parasympathetic. It's a rest and digest state. nervous system before you eat, before you eat. It allows you to consume your nutrients a lot better. If you're eating in front of the television watching evening news, you're screwed. You're in a fight or flight. You don't absorb the nutrients. You're empty calories.

Next thing, even the order in which you eat your foods matters. So if you have a plate of food, um, Eat your veggies first. Those veggies slow down your digestive track. They are absorbing the best nutrients first, eat your protein next. And then if you have room at the end, you can eat your carbs, right? So that order is critically important. Is that the sequence secret?

My mission in writing this book is to get the knowledge out there. Tony Robbins and I wrote a book, 700 pages, that was an extraordinary book. It was number one in the New York Times for, I think, like six weeks. but it's hard for people to consume a 700-page book. And I've made this longevity guidebook as something that is consumable and it's a manual, it's a how-to.

So Ozempic drugs are like, I mean, they're every place. They're the get-rich-quick scheme or the get-skinny-quick scheme. And people need to know it's not that simple, right? GLP-1 drugs, you do lose weight. You... basically cut out your hunger, but a significant amount of the weight that you lose is muscle. And if there's one thing that correlates with longevity, it's your muscle mass.

So there's a very large study that the more muscle mass you have, the longer you're likely to live, and for a number of reasons that occur there. And so what happens is if you're on a GLP-1 drug, you're losing weight, you're losing fat and muscle. And then if you stop the drug, you'll put on 70% of the weight you lost. And most of that that you put on is fat and not muscle. Oh, man.

You're effectively addicted. Wow. And so if you're going to take the drug, the single most important thing that you should be thinking about is how do I use this to create better habits? I mean, there's some people who are morbidly obese. They can't move well. And yes, it's fantastic to help them. But the important thing is while you're in this situation, learn how to eat healthy.

I think about everything I put into my mouth. In the same way that I'm so careful about what I watch on the... I don't watch the news, first of all. I don't read the papers. I don't watch the news. I have Google searches and an AI that I set up for you that bring in the stuff that's relevant to me. I don't need some editor...

like working up my sympathetic system and telling me, I mean, pick up the newspaper tomorrow morning and count the number of negative stories and positive stories. I guarantee you it's 10 to one, at least. And the same thing on the TV news. I mean, it's all negative news. And you have to ask yourself the question, is this all that's going on in the world? Or is that what they're reporting to me?

And there's so much amazing things going on. You just don't hear about them. Good news networks do not succeed. And so you have to actively shape what you allow into your mind in the same way that you shape what you let into your body, what you eat.

Yes, exactly.

And do gratitude.

It's like, okay, I gotta remind myself on sleep or diet or exercise or mindset. And I've laid it out in that way, where it's something you pick up and utilize. So what's different today, right?

Yes. I mean, listen, I'm guilty as everybody when I'm like in the middle of, it's like, I got to get this into my body as quickly as possible. But the answer is no. It's like when you do that, you're short-changing the nutrients you're absorbing and you're doing yourself a massive disservice.

And so if you're gonna take the time to eat and believe me, this is a, you have to get into a mantra mode where it's like, I'm gonna eat now. One other thing, you know. Pause. I'm gonna pause. I'm gonna take some deep breaths. I'm gonna drink a full glass of water, you know, first. We all know this, right? Just to calm down my hunger pangs and I'm gonna enjoy every bite.

and I'm gonna chew it a dozen times, 20 times, and I'm gonna savor the food. And all of these things are basically activating your natural equivalent of Ozempic in your body. Yes, yes.

Yeah. The elements here are each of them make sense, right? The last one here, move your body. So regular exercise. And we know this after when the healthiest things you can do, especially as a family with your loved ones, with your kids, with your spouse is after an evening meal, go take a walk. Mm-hmm. All of these things make a fundamental difference.

You can actually see yourself lose kilograms just by the order which you eat your foods. Really? Yeah.

Well, first of all, because you're slowing down your eating and because you're eating your fiber first and your protein next and not your carbs. So the challenge is when you eat empty carbs, white rice, right, for example, it's converted to glucose. It spikes or bread at the beginning of your meal. You know, you got this basket of bread, you're just munching and drinking wine.

So I think that we're living in a time where AI is going to make a massive difference and a whole slew of biotechnology capabilities like single cell sequencing, CRISPR, gene therapies, all these exotic things you hear about are technologies that are going to become available to us in a decade ahead.

All of this turns into raising your blood glucose levels that then spikes your insulin, which then makes you hungry again to eat more. So if you think that the restaurant is like just doing you this favor of bringing you out for wine. Free bread. Yeah, yeah, and bread. They're manipulating you. Wow. They're just making you hungry to order more food.

You know, it's, I hate to say that, but that's what's going on.

They give you a little heroin dose at the beginning to get you addicted. Exactly. What is this lemon power? What does that mean? So there is an extract called aramin. And you have these, what's called L cells in your gut that are producing the GLP-1. And it's basically stimulating your L cells to produce the same drug normally. And instead of giving yourself an injection of the stuff.

So, I mean, listen, these are all, at the end of the day, these are all small, actions you can take.

If you're thinking about it all the time, and I have a whole, I added a chapter in this book, the last chapter I wrote is on routines. And routines are basically a mechanism that gets rid of your ability to negotiate with yourself. I mean, I think of that- How do you do that though? By small steps. Yeah. Small steps. Don't try and do everything at once.

I lay out in the book all the routines I've built. I lay out in the book routines from other individuals as well. And you can Google a lot of amazing health experts and look at their routines, but give yourself the gift, of deciding what you consider healthy for yourself and take it in small incremental steps. And if you do that, after a while, when I get out of bed, I set my alarm as a backup.

I typically, this morning I woke up at 5.15, I'm up between like 5.15 and 5.30 because I go to sleep by 9.30 the night before. It's like, for me, everything begins by me You know, turning down the lights at nine, going into a getting ready for sleep, putting on my blue light blocking glasses, slowing things down.

I listened to a audible book on tape as sort of like, it's like being read a bedtime story at night as an adult. Really?

Well, yeah, it's like I set a 15 minute timer And I go, some people like reading, some people like a hot bath, some people are focused on prayer, but there are certain triggers that you can have that get you from wide awake to slowing down and getting ready for sleep. We can talk about turning down room temperature and all a bunch of other things,

One of my mentors and dear friends, Ray Kurzweil, right, who wrote The Singularity is Nearer, Singularity is Nearer, he proposed a concept years ago called longevity escape velocity. What's that? And so longevity escape velocity is the idea that today, for every year that you're alive, science is extending your life for about a quarter to a third of a year.

When I'm up in the morning, that first hour and a half is mine. And it's when I have maximum control of my day. Is that the same for you? Sure.

Yeah. So you might have different days that I'll do different things, but every day it's, you know, some red light meditation. I use something called a pulsetto, which is a vagal nerve stimulator to basically put me into parasympathetic state. And all of these things have become routine for me. I just bought a home sauna, which I'm excited to start using. I know, it's great.

So these are the routines that you do that feel natural. And if you don't have the routines, you find yourself in a position of renegotiating things with yourself. And a routine becomes a habit, which is the mechanism by which you don't negotiate with yourself. It's what I do. It's who I am. It becomes identity. It becomes identity.

A routine that I want to have?

And by the way, if you're dictatorial on it and you don't give yourself the ability to forgive yourself for eating something that just couldn't help, That's not healthy either, right? To rigidity is not good. I mean, it's like, give yourself credit for what you're able to do. And one of the other things, by the way, I'll come back to your question in a moment, is be careful at night.

I mean, night is when things break down, right? You have a certain amount of willpower. Yeah. And you know this, right? Of course. You have your greatest willpower in the morning. And as you've had an exhausting day, I battled, oh my God, I deserve that piece of cake. Damn it, I worked hard today. You know, I think I...

want more meditative time in my life, and I need more stretching time in my life. So those two things are probably, if I had to move the needle, I have to let go of something else. There is one thing that all humans have in common, all humans, everywhere, from Elon Musk to the poorest child, it's 24 hours a day, seven days in a week, 365 in a year. It's how we use our time that is everything.

Yeah.

It is. Not being interrupted throughout the night. Yeah. So I use an Oura Ring to gamify my sleep. I have an eight-sleep mattress. How helpful is that? It is because I think one of the things that lets me sleep through the night is having a mattress that cools me down. And I can shape the temperature curve to the night and it warms up in the morning. To wake you up. To wake me up.

I've just added a set of full spectrum lights that as the sun sets, the lights become, you see the sun setting and getting red. And then in the morning, the lights come on in a blue, you know, and so this is about controlling your cortisol levels and just getting you started for the day. And so these are things that you can do.

But there's going to be a point that for every year that you're alive, science is extending your life for more than a year. And the question is, when is that going to happen? And so Ray's prediction, and if you Google Ray's predictions, it's like he's got an 86% accuracy rate, which is pretty extraordinary.

I mean, you have to remember, all of this got programmed 200,000 years ago. You know, we lived outside. We were in nature. We were in nature. You know, we're grounded, feet on the ground. We woke up when the sun came up, went to sleep when the sun went down.

But it was predation, and it was infection, and it was a whole slew of other things.

Yeah. I don't have an answer for you. I think you'd be better off answering that.

Yeah, I think, you know, you have to be... loving life to want to live, right? So I love life. I truly love life. I love the world I'm living in, my family, the things I get to do. And that gives me this joy and this desire to live as long as I can. And I'm driven by making a difference, right?

My massive transformative purpose is to inspire and guide entrepreneurs to create a hopeful, compelling and abundant future for humanity. And so that's what I love doing. And in a similar – very similar way to what you do, it's how do I inspire people to go big, to create a life they love living? And I think trauma – is very real and needs to be addressed.

And there are ways to address it now more than ever before. Yeah. But you have to feel worthy. You have to have a life. You know, a friend, Dan Sullivan, says... you need to see a life, a future that's bigger than your past. Right? I mean, just think about that one second. If your future is bigger than your past, then I'm like, I have so much to live for.

If you think like, oh my God, my best days were behind me. It's a slow landing into the grave. You're dead already. You're dead already. Might as well live it up right now and eat everything and drink everything.

Yeah. So I'm not going to answer that.

On all of his predictions, like when we're going to have AI, when we're going to have these robots, when we're going to have nanotechnology. His prediction on longevity escape velocity is by the end of the year 2030.

Let's start with that. This book began as a document. People would ask me, like, what do you do? Always, right? So it's like, Peter, you look great. You're doing great, whatever. What do you do for your sleep? What do you do for your meds and your supplements? And this started as a 10-page document. It then became a 100-page longevity document. And it's become now, I think, 100 and... 80 pages.

I made it so that it was very readable and usable. And there's the longest chapter in here is a chapter on meds and supplements. Not because I think that's the most important thing that you should be doing, but because I wanted to disclose fully what I'm doing and why. So to back up one second, years ago, about 20 years ago or so, I think it was 20, there was a paper written

called the Hallmarks of Aging. And a group of scientists identified, okay, what are the nine things that are causing aging, like stem cell exhaustion and epigenetic changes and whole telomere shortening. And so they wrote up these nine things. It was updated now to a dozen things. And so these are what we believe cause aging. And I went through with my physicians.

I employ like 20 physicians at Fountain Life. I have one who's amazing, Mona Izat-Vilanov, who's my personal doctor. And there's a team behind that as part of my Fountain Life membership. But I went through and I checked my bloods every quarter, sometimes more frequently than that. And I build a protocol of what I take. And there's, I actually have five different pill packs.

That's when we're supposed to reach this... That if you're in reasonably good shape and you have reasonable affluence, not like rich, reasonable abilities, that you'll reach this longevity escape velocity. So I speak to all the scientists I know about this. And folks like George Church and David Sinclair at Harvard Medical School, when I query them about this, their answer is by the mid-2030s.

One when I wake up in the morning, one in the a.m. with my breakfast, one at lunch, one in dinner, and one before I go to sleep. Listen, I guarantee you, my mom says, Peter, you're insane. How do you know those things all don't interfere with each other and so forth? I go, mom, you got a good point. And this is what I'm taking.

So, but what I wrote up in the book was every one of those supplements or meds, what are they impacting on those hallmarks of aging? What are the things that, and how are they reversing it?

We're going to be, sometime in the next three years, we're going to have the ability for an AI to take in your entire genome, to take in all of your upload data, all of the imaging data of your body, all the blood biochemistry of your body. And then it will ask you, okay, here's your input. What do you want to do? You want more energy? You want to live longer? You want more muscle?

What's your goals? What are your top three goals? And then how many pills are you willing to take? I'm willing to take five pills. I'm willing to take 75 pills. And then it will spit out an optimum supplement protocol for you. Based on you. Based on you. Is that happening right now? Is that out there? We're working on it at Fountain. Wow. And it's an area that I think is very, very doable.

The data is being collected at large scale. Wow. But today, if you went to three different doctors and gave them your data and asked them what you should be taking, you'd get three completely different answers. Oh, man. Right? But there is an optimal set for you. The next decade, the biggest impact is going to be from access to AI as your extraordinary health partner.

I mean, I can't explain how exciting it is to have this capacity and capability coming our way. So in the book, I lay out the meds, the supplements, and the why. And I think it's for everybody to evaluate for themselves. Sure. with your physician and decide where are you in your journey. If you're 25, it's very different. So you might be taking creatinine to focus on building muscle.

If you're 85, you might be taking a particular supplement to reduce your cholesterol or your blood sugar. I wrote it very much with a few provisos and like, okay, this is what I do. It's what I do. I test myself all the time. I've spoken to a dozen doctors. I've done the research and this is why I do it. You decide.

Yeah, I think there are, one thing that I do is I'm wearing a, what is it? Glucose monitor?

It's not expensive, right? You can get it from Dexcom or Abbott Labs. Inside tracker and all these things. And those are different. Insight Tracker and Lifeforce are companies that will do a quarterly blood test, right? So Lifeforce, for example, Tony and I were co-founders of that. It will run you a couple hundred bucks a year, up to 500 bucks a year, which is reasonably affordable. And

it will give you your top 40 biomarkers, right? So at a minimum, give yourself a gift of that. Understand what's going on in your body. You know, we're all optimists around our health. Let me give something that, and there's a whole chapter in here called not dying from something stupid. And let me dive into that one second. Sure. Our bodies are incredibly good at hiding disease.

But here's the point, right? It's not... You know, it's not 50 years from now or 30 years from now. It's a decade. It's the next 15 years. So our job between now and then is to keep ourselves in reasonably good health. And we'll talk about that and not die from something stupid.

If I asked you right now or folks watching, are you sure there's nothing going on inside your body to know about? 100%, are you positive? Most people truly have no idea unless you've gone through what I call an upload, right? You don't know what's going inside your body. And here's some stats. 70% of heart attacks. have no precedent. There's no chest clutching or no shortness of breath.

Even if you got what was called a calcium score, have you ever gotten a calcium score? Okay, a calcium score has been for a few decades the most popular cardiovascular test. It's looking at a CT of your heart, looking for calcium. But calcified plaque in your coronary arteries, coronary arteries are the arteries that feed the muscle of the heart.

If you block a coronary artery and it deprives the heart tissue from glucose and oxygen, the heart tissue dies and you have a heart attack. And if enough of it dies, you're dead. Wow. Right? So when people talk about a coronary disease or heart attacks, that's what we're talking about. We're talking about the blood vessels feeding the muscle of your heart being blocked.

If you get a calcium score, you know, they range from like zero to over a thousand. If your plaque, your cholesterol plaques and so forth are calcified, it's like, imagine a pipe here that's pumping the blood through. If it's calcified on the side of the arteries and not blocking the pipe, it's stable, it's fine. But what we've discovered is that there's a second kind of plaque.

It's called soft plaque. And it doesn't show up in a calcium score. And so you can have a calcium score of zero and have a heart attack that day because this soft plaque is in the wall of the artery. And what we see is it can evulse. It can break out and a glob of fat will block the coronary artery and starve your muscle.

And so what is brand new over the last like three years is a new type of technology, which is an AI overlay that can find the soft plaque in your heart, in your coronary arteries. And if it identifies soft plaque, your job is to either reduce it or calcify it. And it's the only thing that matters.

So there's a company called Clearly that we use that you do your coronary CT, it takes 10 minutes, and that data is uploaded. This AI model finds a soft plaque, gives you a report, and that's all you should care about. If it's blocking your coronary, then you might need... some type of emergent treatment.

But if it's not, but you have a high soft plaque burden, your job is to reduce it or calcify it so it can't like sneak up in the middle of the night. I had a fraternity brother of mine who died from a heart attack in the middle of the night was due to come down to Fountain Life in a month. And it just slayed me, right? What are the tests that people get when they go to Fountain Life?

So let's break it up into three parts. There's imaging. So when you come through Fountain Life, It's a full body MRI. Like a prenuvo type of scan or something. Prenuvo type of stuff and more so it's a full body, a brain, a brain vasculature. So in the full body, we're looking for any kind of tumors, cancers, any kind of anomaly, any kind of nodules in the lung, looking for aneurysms.

I'll mention this because it's public knowledge. A friend, Sam Nazarian, I don't know if you know Sam, he owns, started SLS Hotels and one of the major hoteliers. And we have a partnership with Fountain and Sam. He's building out 25 resorts, six-star resorts and residential. He's gonna be building Fountain Life into all of these around the world, which is amazing.

So we're going into business, I say, Sam, come on down and go through family life. I was taking them to go see Richard Branson in Necker. And so we went through Orlando on the way down. He goes through it. Now, this guy is extremely successful and wealthy and has many doctors. He goes through, we find two brain aneurysms. Wow. He's in surgery a week later. Holy cow. And he's cured now.

But these were, this would have been super bad news. And it's like, that's insane that you have the best medical care and you didn't know this was going on inside your body. So the imaging finds cancers, tumors, and aneurysms. We do a clearly coronary CT to look for soft plaque. We do a low-dose lung CT.

We do a DEXA scan, which you're familiar with, which is looking at your visceral fat, your muscle tissue, your body fat, your bone density. We do retinal scan, we do skin scans, looking for any kind of moles or any kind of early cancer. We have a brand new machine for women, which is a new type of breast scan, which is ultrasound. It does not, you know, compress the breast.

And we had dipped during COVID, obviously, and now we're coming back up. But it's not that much still. It isn't. It isn't. And it's measuring everybody. versus people who are focused on taking care of themselves. One of the biggest issues is we're killing ourselves by what we eat. I mean, we can dive into diet. It's, you know, the number one thing is people's overconsumption of sugar. Yes.

It works for people with breast implants or dense breasts. It's amazing ultrasound. It's a joy for women to use, and it's something that makes it a lot easier for them. Wow. So those are the imaging paradigms. You have blood work in the skin. We have been, all of the blood work, it's 150 blood biomarkers that are tested. Your full microbiome, looking at your gut. We do toxin testing.

We do food allergy testing. There's a whole bunch more. Your full genome, not just SNPs, just not like 23andMe, which is single nucleotide polymerase. It's all 3.2 billion letters, and it's looking at it and understanding this. All the scanning, it takes about four and a half hours. All the scanning is to answer two primary questions. What's going on inside your body you know about right now?

and what's likely to happen to you so we can prevent it, we can optimize it, right? That's the goal. In the what's going on right now, what's amazing are the numbers. We've had like five, 6,000 people come through, 2% have a cancer they don't know about, right? It's like, hate to tell you this and happy to tell you this, we found it, let's do something about it. 2.5% have an aneurysm.

14.4% have either a neurocognitive, cardiovascular, or metabolic disease they need to take care of right now. I was giving you the stats, 70% of a heart attack without any earlier. You don't feel a cancer until stage three or stage four. and your probabilities of a full remission surviving it is much lower.

It's like when you go into the hospital not feeling well and having a pain and the doctor says, I'm sorry to tell you this, guess what? It didn't happen that morning. It's been going on for probably years and you wanna find it. When's the best time to find cancer? It's like at the very beginning. Yes. What's even more concerning is that 70% of the cancers that kill us are never tested for.

So it's not the breast cancer, the prostate cancer, the colon cancer, right? We test for those. It's the glioblastoma or it's pancreatic cancer. It's the things that are not routinely tested for, right? And so one other test we do is a Grail gallery test, which is from a blood sample. We're able to look at 40 or 50 different cancers. So when cancer is growing, those cells are,

are growing rapidly in some rupture and they release DNA into your bloodstream. So from what's called a liquid biopsy, we can determine if there's something that we should be looking for. Wow. But what is amazing about the Fountain Life experience is it's multimodal, meaning it's not any one thing, right?

It's all the imaging, it's the genetics, it's the blood biomarkers, it's a cognitive testing, all of these things that come together. So, I mean, full disclosure, it's not cheap, right? It's $19,500, but it's not just the testing. You get a medical team with you for the year, right? So there's a functional medicine doctor, a longevity doctor, a nurse, a dietician, a health coach that work with you

through the year and then repeat test quarterly. So if you wanna go deep into this, we are releasing in the start of the new year, a version for 6,500 bucks. which is going through employers. So if a company buys 10 or more for their employees, the price comes down significantly.

Yeah. So people can go to what, foundlife.com? Yeah, foundlife.com for that. There's one other part, which is the part I'm most excited about. Tell me. Okay. So one part is knowing what's going on in your body and not dying from something stupid. Like, holy, I wish I had found that earlier. The other part is this incredible world of longevity therapeutics.

The human body never evolved to eat as much sugar as we do. It was not something that was plentiful. You have to remember our biology evolved 100,000, 200,000 years ago in the savannas of Africa. And we haven't changed our biology over the last 200,000 years. And so you have to remember what was life like back then? Well... We were hunters and foragers.

This is the stuff that will extend your lifespan, your health span. And so Fountain has become, created partnerships with companies that are in FDA trials right now with amazing technology. And so we're making it available to our members through these companies. Like these are the options you have that can extend, increase your muscle, reduce your immune age, reduce inflammation.

And for me, that's the most important part because I think, you know, knowing what's going on in your body is step one and then optimizing your body. Yes. Now, again, clearly, some of these things are expensive. Some of them are not. But the very first thing people need to do is... The biggest needle is going to be moved by your sleep, your diet, your exercise, your mindset.

Those will buy you a decade or two.

I'll bring Martha. Yeah, we'll do it. Our headquarters is in Orlando. Okay. We have centers in New York, Orlando, Naples, and Dallas, Texas. We're opening up in 25 here in L.A. Okay, now's the time then. Yeah, now's the time.

You know, there's some work to do to get ready there. Sure, sure. But then we're opening up in Houston as well, at the Ritz-Carlton in Arizona. So we're adding four new centers now, and then we have that roadmap of 25 centers with Sam. Okay, that's amazing.

And also some of the incredible therapeutics that are coming and to be excited about what's coming, to feel empowered, right? So... This book, you can go buy it at Amazon. I think it's going to be $26, $27. I'm giving it away at... at cost for me, which is like 15 bucks. If you go to longevityguidebook.com, that will give you access to a bunch of additional things.

And the book is shipped at a lower price. My goal is get this out as far and wide. Any profits I make through Amazon or Audible, I'm donating to the XPRIZE. Let me just mention the XPRIZE last year, because I think it's really important. So I started the X Prize Foundation 30 years ago, hard for you to believe. Wow. We've launched 30 X Prizes in 30 years. So what's an X Prize?

It is a large pot of money that we say, I don't care who you are, where you went to school, what you've ever done, if you can build and demonstrate this technology, you win the money and the world gets the benefits, right? So our first XPRIZE was for private space flight, carry a person up to space, actually three people up land and within two weeks make the trip again.

We fasted because we didn't have access to food. We didn't have sugar. We had some fruit in our diet. But today, we're eating like 100 kilograms of sugar a year. And 100 years ago, it was like 2 kilograms a year. And before that, it was even less than that refined sugar. It is a cardiovascular inflammatory. It's a neurocognitive inflammatory, and it is dangerous for our health.

This is way before SpaceX and Blue Origin and all of those companies. And that was successful, but we've launched X prizes on mapping the ocean floor, cleaning up oil spills on the ocean, pulling drinkable water out of the atmosphere. And, you know, I got Elon to fund a $100 million carbon extraction prize, pulling carbon out of the atmosphere and the oceans.

A year ago, we launched one of our largest prizes ever. It was a $101 million prize for extending the healthy human lifespan. It's 101 million because Chip Wilson, the founder of Lululemon, who's one of our large sponsors, said, so how big is Elon's prize again, 100 million? One more million, yeah, yeah. I said, fine, if you fund it, we'll make it 100 million.

So we challenged teams to add 20 healthy years, right? Wow. Actually to reverse your functional age. So we asked teams with a therapy lasting less than a year, I want you to demonstrate the ability to make my cognition 20 years younger, the clarity of my thought, my span of memory, my muscle abilities, grow muscle 20 years younger, and my immune system 20 years younger.

So we have 460 teams whole in that team, the competition right now. This prize will be won by 2030. And again, I talked about a little bit in the book, but this is about... I want people to realize this stuff is coming. It's a rocket ship. There's no bigger business on the planet and no greater motivation for people. So I want folks to know this is coming. Be excited about it. Be hopeful.

Share it with your parents, your grandparents.

Yes.

You know, the thing I'm the most proud of is hopefully, and I believe my kids, right? I mean, that's always something. It's amazing when I go to sleep at night and I think about what are the three moments that I'm most grateful for from the day, it always comes back to them, right? It's like all the deals, nice, but it's all about my kids saying, I love you, right? It's amazing in that regard.

I think this XPRIZE is a big deal. This XPRIZE is giving scientists, entrepreneurs permission to dream bigger than ever before. It's funded out of Saudi Arabia, out of Hevolution and Chip Wilson. I'm a multimillion dollar donor to the prize as well, as are a number of amazing members of my abundance community. I think the biggest thing ultimately goes back to where you began.

I think it's helping people change their mindset because that's the first step. It really truly is. Everything follows from a belief that you can and a belief that you should and belief that you deserve it. Because the tools are going to be there. And it's not that hard. I mean, I lay them out in the book. You don't have to do everything.

You pick a few things and increase, you know, next month add a few more things and add a few more things. But if you don't believe it, if you don't believe you're worthy, like you said, you know, you don't go past go.

Pleasure, buddy. Appreciate it. Always a pleasure. Powerful.

Now, I'm not saying don't eat any sugar, but it's like just starting with donuts. And I had this argument with Elon all the time. It's like, he jokes, I eat donuts every morning. I said, don't eat donuts. When you're 60, you're gonna regret that.

I think it can extend your health. So let's begin by talking about two things, lifespan and healthspan. All right, now there's a challenge here because while we're living longer, we're living, let's round up to 80, right? Most people are living the last 20 years of their life in some level of physical pain, cognitive loss, cardiovascular loss, inflammation, all these things.

So their health span, they're healthy up until 60, and then it's a decrease from there. And you have to realize that you're trading these things all the time. And so if you wanna have, I mean, my goal for myself and for those I love is to live a life where I've got the vitality, the energy, the cognition, looking good, feeling good, moving well, you know, from now through 100.

And then during these next, I'm 63 today, right? Over these next 37 years, we're going to have so many breakthroughs coming, right? Science doesn't stand still. We forget that it's moving at this exponential speed. And my job is to keep myself in the best health I can to intercept the breakthroughs that are coming that will give you the next decade and the next decade.

So most people know me as a technologist in AI or biotech or space rockets where I spent my first years. The last decade, I have been truly focused on longevity as one of the largest markets. I have a $600 million venture fund in that area and written a few books, started a number of companies. We'll talk about perhaps Fountain Life.

A few years ago, I was on stage at the Vatican to bring it back to spirituality. And so it sounds like a joke, but I'm on stage in the Vatican with a alderman, a rabbi, a cardinal, myself, And we're having the title of the panel was the morality of immortality. Interesting, right? Very. And I flipped it to the immorality of mortality. And so that was our conversation.

And the rabbi there gave this amazing historical overview of human lifespan. And he said, yes, we had Methuselah and all of these people living to 700, 800, 900 years. And then something happened where humans sinned irreparably with God. And God said, you shall have no more than 120 years. And this is in the Bible. Really?

And what's amazing is up until now, the longest lived human is 122 years old. Wow. And we have people, you know, typically these super centenarians who are making it from 110 to 120 years. And so it's interesting that the Bible actually called out 120 years. I find that pretty extraordinary. Why do you think that is? Maybe that was their experience back then. Maybe they're prophetic. Who knows?

I don't know. But I remember saying, okay, listen, if we're promised by the Bible 120 years, I'm fine taking that 120 years. Give me that 120, yeah, yeah. And then we'll renegotiate after that. So listen, spirituality, I'm gonna take it slightly different and talk about mindset, right? Because you love mindset, I love mindset. I love the work that you do.

And when I listen to your show, it's around mindsets. And as it turns out, mindset, which is connected to spirituality, yes, is one of the most powerful forces in you living a healthy, long life. It truly is. And here's the numbers. There was a study done and reported – actually, I've got it here – reported the National Academy of Sciences, right?

The Journal of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, like one of the most prestigious journals. And it said in a study of 69,744 women – And 1,429 men, it's one of the only studies that had more women than men, published in the National Academy of Sciences, it was found that optimistic people lived as much as 15% longer than pessimists. Isn't that interesting? I find that fascinating.

And I do think that is true. I think that is about our mindset, our belief of mind over matter. And so, you know, people tell me you're optimistic. Yeah, I got double benefit from being optimistic. Sure. I love life. I love every minute of it.

Let me, one of the things I opened the book with that I want people to realize there's a couple of things, if I could lay these down as cornerstones. The first is you're born with 3.2 billion letters from your mom and 3.2 billion letters from your dad. And that's your software you're running. You're running it at age zero, at age 20, at age 50, 80, hopefully at 100.

And so if you're running the same software, why do you look different, right? Why don't you have a six pack at 100 that you had when you were 18? And it turns out it's not the genes you have, right? We have some 20 to 22,000 genes inside of that genome. It's what genes are on, what genes are off. That is your epigenome.

It's epi from the Greek word for above, and it's controlling which genes are on and off as you age. And the control of those genes do two things. It says, okay, we're gonna turn these genes on in your skin cell, these genes on in your neuron, these genes on your hepatocyte, your liver cell. And so cell type is controlled, but also as we grow older,

These genes, some get turned on that shouldn't be on, some get turned off that shouldn't be off, and that is aging. And what's been proven in the last, I say this is work done over the last five years, is that we can reverse your epigenetic age.

biological age well it's it's yeah you can call it your biological age very specifically i'm saying the epigenome like your genes are are the keys on a piano right all those genes are there and when you're playing a song you're playing certain genes and as you get older The song starts to blur and the wrong keys are being hit and such, and that's your epigenome.

And can you reverse it back where the song being played is correct? And a number of things impact our epigenome. It is your mindset, definitively mind over body. It is your environment. It is very much exercise. It's sugar. It's what you eat. It's sleep.

Our bodies were never designed to live past age 30. Our muscle mass starts decreasing after the age of 30. Our hormone levels, our muscles begin to atrophy.

And the number one correlant to heart disease was none of those things. It was your hemoglobin A1C. It was what was your average blood glucose levels over the last three months. And so sugar correlates with heart disease. It also correlates with obviously diabetes and correlates with neurodegenerative disease. So can you minimize that first and foremost? And- It takes a while. Sugar is addictive.

But I've trained myself to minimize that in my diet. We actually ran a no sugar challenge for 22 days that a friend of mine, Guillermo Navarrete, ran for my abundance community. And if you do it as a group, it's a lot easier to do. Whole plants, of course, everybody talks about whole plants. It is true. I'm not going to go plant versus animal protein.

I mean, minimizing sugar, whole plants, even the order which you eat your food, right? So when you're sitting down at your plate, at lunch or dinner, eat the vegetables first, which is the fiber going through your stomach and small intestines. It slows it down. It allows you to absorb nutrients. Eat your protein next. And then eat your carbs last, if you have room.

Just doing that alone will flatten your insulin curve and help you lose weight. Anyway, I mean, those are just a few small fundamentals.

I love that. Put yourself in a parasympathetic mode. Say gratitude. Chew the food 20 times. You know, we talk about all these GLP-1 drugs. You can induce that same impact by just chewing your food and eating slowly.

It's crazy. I've been saying, you know, our kids' cereals should have black box warnings on them. Like a cigarette. Yeah.

I mean, honestly, we're marketing this to our kids.

It's amazing to be here with you in beautiful Miami and in your incredible environment here. You walk the talk, you live it, and so proud of what you built.

It's negative. So in the category of diet, it's not that difficult. It is drink enough water. I don't do sodas. Caffeine, it depends on what your genetics are if you're a slower, fast metabolizer. I've minimized alcohol to half a glass of wine socially a week. But it's a good lubricant for social, but don't abuse it. It is another form of sugar.

But minimizing sugar, eating whole plants, if you do just those two things, and slow it down when you're eating your food. Really hard. And don't watch the Crisis News Network while you're eating your food.

Because I think we are- Can I hit one more thing, which is mindset. I think people don't recognize how powerful mindset is on your health. And there's a study, I just want to quote in here that I write about in the book.

Yes, it is available. I am donating 100% of all profits to the XPRIZE Foundation. We've got a... a large healthspan prize I'll mention. I also, you can order on Amazon, great, 26, 27 bucks. I have it available. If you go to longevityguidebook.com, it's like $12 cheaper. And it's basically... do it at break even. I want to get this out there. For me, making a few bucks on a book is not the goal.

It's how do I get this out there? People should be empowered. This is the most extraordinary time ever in human history. I want to watch and see and participate in as much of it as possible. Me too. And I want people to have that vitality, that love, that life, that health. All right. So here's two data points here on mindset.

Because I think mindset is one of the most important things that people don't connect to your longevity. So this is in a study of 69,744 women and 1,429 men. So it's a large powered study, many more women than men. Published in the prestigious journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. You don't get higher level than that.

It was found that optimistic people live as much as 15% longer than pessimists. It's like a double dividend. Wow. And if you're not optimistic, get around people who are optimistic.

Here's another fun. And this is the power of mind over creativity. So it's one of my favorite stories coming from the Annals of American History. So as it turns out, in an extraordinary demonstration of the will to live, two of America's founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, both willed themselves to live long enough to see the 50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

Even though the average life expectancy was only 44 years old in the early 1800s, Jefferson, who was 83, and Adams, who was 90, made it to July 4, 1826, both dying on that exact date, the 50th anniversary of the nation they had founded. Wow. Isn't that powerful? Wow. I mean, if you, another friend, you know, Dan Sullivan says, make sure that your future is bigger than your past.

Having a purpose to live for. Yes.

Sitting is the use of smoking. Yeah.

Yeah. So when I wake up in the morning, the very first thing I do is give gratitude. All right. It's like my instant reaction. Thank you for the ability to live another amazing day. And can I contribute the maximum I can? And I just, it's like being excited to see what's going to, you know, there's infinite possibilities we're living in. And just excitement for the day.

And a lot of the breakthroughs coming are across everything. So I have a $600 million venture fund in biotech called Bold Capital and Bold Longevity Growth.

B-O-L-D. And we're in our fourth fund now. And so I see a lot of deals. And then I run something called the Longevity Platinum Trip. Dr. Yanni Psaltis and I scan through 500 companies, and we pick 50. And every year, it's a new crop of 50, and we spend five days. I bring my Abundance 360 members in who want to be part of it, and we meet with the CEOs of all these companies.

There's a direct correlation between the amount of skeletal muscle you have and your longevity. Fundamentally, it comes back down to diet, sleep, exercise, and mindset. And the way that you do those things is to wrap routine around them.

And a lot of the people there are to invest or just learn. And this year or last year, 2024 was the first year we're starting to see instead of theory, actual therapeutics, actual things becoming available. Um, I mean, I can jump into some of them. Yeah. Yeah. No, I want to hear about some of them.

Yeah. So, uh, one of them that I love is a company called Immunus. Um, uh, Dr. Hans Kierstad, this is his fifth company. He's had four increasingly bigger exits. He's brilliant in stem cells. And what he identified was he created an iPSC-derived and an embryonic cell-derived stem cell that he can grow, and it puts out 450 discrete molecules and exosomes consistently. Is this the Muse cell?

um it's not it's not a new cell but it is a and i'll let him define it when he's ready to release it they just completed so what they've done is that there's 440 actually 440 uh secretome that comes out of these cells he's been able to characterize it consistently produce it and turn it into a drug and the fda has allowed him to use that as a drug so they just completed their phase one two-way study in which they were injecting

I am twice a week for three months. And he's figuring out whether once a week or whatever the protocol will be. But his first 18 patients were 50 to 75 years old. They were severe osteoarthritis, meaning they couldn't walk. They were in pain. And he did this for a three-month period, and here's the results. Number one, these people who were effectively in bed rest, right? Yeah, because of pain.

Because of the pain, because they couldn't walk, their skeletal muscle mass increased 6%. Without exercise. Zero exercise. Wow. Amazing. Number two, their pain reduced as much as 70%. They were able to reverse their immune age by 30 years. Wow. And reduce their inflammatory markers by 50%.

No fasting. And it was consistent across everybody. No adverse reactions whatsoever. And so he's doing an expanded trial. I have signed up to be number one. Of course you have.

So we're actually, we've cut a deal between him and Fountain Life. So Fountain Life is my diagnostic and therapeutic centers. Tony Robbins and I and Bill Kapp started this a couple of years ago. We have four centers today in New York, in Naples, where you started, in Orlando, in Houston. We're adding next year, L.A., Phoenix, Dallas, and probably Miami.

And then we've got a growth path for another 25. Anyway, we're making this therapeutic available at no cost to our Fountain Life members as part of the expanded trial he's doing. So very excited about that. Wow. Because our members are fully characterized. And we know they're healthy. We know what shape they're in. Yeah, all their data.

And it's pumping these factors out based upon the environment it finds itself in.

There's a lot coming in that realm. I'm the... co-founder and vice chairman of a company called Cellularity, which I love. Bob Haruri, who is an MD, PhD. Tony Robbins and I and Bob Haruri wrote a book called Life Force. Tony's in everything. Tony's a dear, dear friend. And we started a few companies together. He's amazing. I have nothing but love for him. But Bob Haruri would be a great guest.

So Bob figured out early on that the placenta is really the 3D printer that manufactures the baby. And at the end of childbirth, most people, you don't know this, but you're paying the hospital to incinerate and get rid of the placenta.

Which is like if your baby was born with an extra set of lungs, kidney, heart, liver, would you like throw them away? And so one of the things that cellularity has is a division called First Bank USA in which you can save your child's placenta, you decellularize it, you pull out the stem cells, the natural killer cells, the T cells, the exosomes and so forth, and it's cryopreserved.

that your child for the rest of its life has a day zero set of its own stem cells forever. So both of my boys who are now 13, when I go visit Cellularity's headquarters, I go say hello to the nitrogen doer that has their stem cells. That's awesome. But, you know, we talk about Wharton's jelly. We talk about umbilical cord. The placental stem cells are probably the most powerful. Really?

And so cellularity is developing those products as well. And hopefully they'll become allowable. We'll put those through Fountain as well when they become approved in the U.S.

So today, the FDA does not allow any stem cells, really. If they're your stem cells, like from fat, and they're not manipulated, meaning they're not expanded, you're taking them out. of your fat, which has a high population. And your fat is actually one of your younger, is one of your, how do I put it this way? The stem cells in your fat are the youngest stem cells in your body.

Your stem cells from your blood marrow are just recently manufactured, but fat stem cells can be as much as eight years younger. You can pull it out and you can purify them and put them back in. But that's fine. But the more interesting thing is, can you manipulate them and make them, expand them. There's nothing you can do.

I think about that a lot. And I'm clear that fundamentally there are a whole slew of things that cost you nothing that have a huge impact right now. A lot of people know me as a technologist or investor in biotech or AI and building companies in that field. But what I really want to gift in this conversation with you is like what you can do right now that moves the needle for you.

You can actually co-incubate your stem cells with young stem cells, like from a newborn, across a filter. But the exudate, the secretome of the young stem cells will rejuvenate your stem cells. So there's a lot of work that Bob and others have done in that realm.

I've done five therapeutic plasma exchanges, but not blood-borne.

Typically, yeah.

And therapeutic plasma exchange or TPE, we have that available at our Fountain Life centers as well. You do at Fountain Life? Okay, amazing. Yeah.

We are headquarters right now in Orlando. We will be rolling it out to all the centers in the year ahead. That's amazing. Yeah. And it really is. You're hooked up to a machine. It takes about two hours. You pull out about two to two and a half liters of blood, about half of your blood supply. Mm-hmm. Your plasma, yeah.

Well, of all the blood, it spins out the red cells and white cells and platelets, and it puts them over here. It pulls out your plasma, which I think of it as my oil change, right? And then it gives you fresh saline and plasma, puts the cells back in, and returns that to your body. So you're pulling out all the inflammatory factors.

Now, for a number of diseases, like neuro-related diseases, it's life savings. For others, and I think Dr. Kiproff, who developed this, sees like a reversal of three to five years on your epigenetic age. But it really matters, how do you feel at the end of the day?

Another company that you and I are both fans of, Xterra Medical, is fabulous. So here's a technology coming out of DARPA years ago and developed jointly in Sweden in this blood filtration system that has got 40 square meters, about the size of a tennis court, worth of this material called a glycocalyx. that filters out all viruses, all bacteria, all circulating cancer cells. I mean, amazing.

And there's a very real phenomenon people don't talk about called immuno-exhaustion. I don't know if you've heard of that term. I can understand what it means. As we grow older, we have been burdened

with all of these different viral infections, besides COVID, maybe you have Epstein-Barr virus, maybe you have cytomegalovirus, maybe you have a multitude of other viruses that you're, they're not active, they're in your body. And on occasion when you get run down or stressed, they start coming out and your immune system needs to fight

all these viruses and cancer, and it's the same innate immune system, your natural killer cells. And so it can become overloaded. It can become exhausted. Yes. And so one of the things I like about Xthera Medical, and we're rolling that out through Fountain as well. I saw that. Yeah, Fountain, you get a 15K discount on the blood filter systems if you're a Fountain member, which I'm proud of.

It's the ability to filter out all of these pathogens and give your immune system a deep breath. Yeah. A chance to, okay, now we're going after you.

And it's not spending hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars. You can do that as well, but fundamentally it comes back down to diet, sleep, exercise, and mindset. Yes. Those are the elements that if you don't have those dialed in, you know, forget about the other stuff. Right. Let's dial those in and, you know,

Is that Dr. Mink Chawla? Yeah. Yeah, Dr. Chawla. He's brilliant. Oh, he's so brilliant.

People need to understand your body is always producing cancers. There's something called the Hayflick limit that a cell divides 50 times and then should have the decency to die. But sometimes it becomes an inflammatory cell, a grouchy old man cell, a senile cell. Senescent, yeah. Other times it becomes a cancer. And when that happens, your innate immune system, your NK natural killer cells,

typically detect it and kill it. But sometimes it evades those and they become a cancer.

work i mean your upside is at least that it's not very likely and by the way it's probably going to help you if not under directly in the cancer it will help you on getting rid of your viral loads it's about really giving your immune system a chance to take a breath and and defend you You know, one of the things we're very proud of, I'd like to mention, is our HealthSpan prize.

Yeah, this is fascinating. Yeah. So folks who don't know me from the XPRIZE perspective, 30 years ago, hard to believe, I launched our first $10 million prize. So I offered up $10 million for the first person who could build a private spaceship, go to 100 kilometers, land, and make the trip again with the same ship within two weeks.

we're here discussing my latest book, longevity guidebook, how to go, you know, how to slow stop reverse aging and not die from something stupid.

This was way before SpaceX and Blue Origin and space was not a common conversation. And the idea of commercial space didn't exist. An amazing woman, Anusha Ansari, who's now the CEO, I serve as chairman of the XPRIZE, put up the 10 million for a family. I put up the first, you know, I don't know, I didn't have that much money back then, the first 100,000 or so. And it worked.

And on the heels of the X Prize getting won, the first one in 2004, I was able to attract Elon Musk on my board, Larry Page, James Cameron. It's like, you know, everybody loves a winner. And so we turned the foundation into an organization that was launching large scale global competitions. And we're saying, I don't care where you went to school, what you've ever done.

If you demonstrate and solve this problem, you win the money. So we've launched 30 prizes, about $550 million of competitions, driving close to $8 billion in R&D. And this is not like a Nobel Prize that you award somebody for something done 30 years ago or 10 years ago.

This is a prize where we say, okay, the first person to do this, it was modeled after the prize that Lindbergh won flying from New York to Paris. It was a $25,000 prize offered for the first person to fly. Nine teams made the effort. Lindbergh won. Wow. I did not know that. And so we've launched 30 prizes, mapping the ocean floor, pulling water out of the atmosphere.

Let's see, five years ago, I got Elon to fund $100 million carbon extraction prize, which will be awarded this coming April for pulling CO2 out of the atmosphere and out of the oceans at mass. It's an amazing prize. Wow. I'd love to know what the hell that technology works. Yeah. Well, you'll find out. Okay.

It's important because I think that should have been the title of the book is such a great. Thank you. It really is. Thank you. But you know, it's, So there's a chapter on diet, a chapter on sleep, a chapter on exercise, a chapter on mindset, and importantly, this time, a chapter on routines. Because I think the single greatest innovation I've done, I'm 63 right now.

In January of 2020, Elon became the most wealthiest person on the planet, and he was getting a lot of crap for not being philanthropic. So I texted him. I said, why don't you fund an XPRIZE? He says, what do you have in mind? I said, how about one around carbon? He said, how much? I said, 100 million. He said, he wrote back, sure.

i love you and then a month a month later we were assigned and he put up the money so that's great so for the last five years i was like there's got to be a prize and uh uh in the longevity space and um We ended up designing a prize, you know, folks like George Church and David Sinclair, Ray Kurzweil. I'm blanking on his name. Aubrey de Grey, who really was the first person to prompt me on this.

And we designed this prize and I raised $141 million. And this is a prize that was launched a year ago. And to win this, you need to demonstrate a therapeutic they could deliver in one year. So imagine someone comes to you, I'm going to give you, Gary, for a year, we're going to give you this therapy. And the impact is going to be that your cognitive, immune, and muscle will be 20 years younger.

Wow. Right? So we're not looking at your epigenetic age or anything like that. What we're looking at is how do you feel? Do you have the ability to build muscle, maintain muscle as strong and capable as you did 20 years earlier? Do you have the cognitive span of memory? Do you have the immune function to mount a reaction to a... And how are you measuring that? Just immune markers?

No, we'll do an immune challenge. We'll give you a vaccine and how well do you mount a response to that? And it's functional. It's using functional endpoints instead of just markers. And so I'm really excited about it because I think that's what really matters. Yeah, I think so too. Do you feel younger? Are you functioning in a younger state versus, oh, look at my printout.

Who gives a shit about your printout if you don't feel that? And here's the punchline. A year later, we have 460 teams competing for that healthspan prize.

So again, it's reversing the functional losses. of an immune cognition and muscle so that you've got the capabilities you had 20 years ago. And amazing companies. And so I'm seeing all of these companies and my job is to- So fascinating. Yeah. I've taken myself off the judging board and-

off of all of that so that I can help promote and support them and not be in a problem of promoting one over the other. But like yesterday, not yesterday, it was a few days ago, this one company that will go from a skin cell, regrow a pluripotent stem cell for you, And then, let's put aside the ethics here, but create a clone of you, right, on a cellular level.

So here's a, and grow that embryonic clone to 28 weeks of Gary, and maybe we'll produce 1,000 of those clones. And way before the brain is developed and such. In fact, they have a genetic change they can make so that the head of the clone doesn't develop. But what we can do now is pull out of your clone day zero hemophobic stem cells. That are an exact copy of my hemophobic stem cells.

I feel like I'm in the best health I've ever been in my life. You look amazing, by the way.

An exact copy of yours, of what they were when you were young. Wow. There's amazing stuff coming. Wow. So I talk about this idea of a longevity mindset. Yeah. And I have a whole, you know, again, a chapter in the book about this, that your mindset is the most important thing.

And if you do the work, understand what's going on, right, and you realize, oh, my God, there is a health span revolution coming, and it's this decade. And I want to see I want to be there. I want to be ready for it. I keep myself in the best health I can. Right. I don't want to miss it. And that's there's got to be some reason why you don't dig into the chocolate cake.

I added 10 pounds of muscle last year. Really? I went down, you know, muscle is your longevity organ. And I went full on. Did you do full statin gene therapy? No, no, no. It was working out in the gym with weights every day, five days a week. It was creatine. It was 150 grams because I weigh 150 pounds of protein every day. And it was doing the work. Yeah. It was doing the work.

Why you don't just sleep through your alarm and forget the gym. Why you don't get your eight hours of sleep. And that reason for me is I want to keep myself... First of all, I love being in great shape in terms of feeling strong, thinking clearly, ability to act, having the energy to run circles around my... 20-something-year-old staff members.

But ultimately, it's about being in the best health I can in order to intercept these breakthroughs.

So we have, again, these 460 teams. I can't believe there's 460. Yeah, from around the world. From around the world.

It's 100 million bucks. It's worth some time. And we're going to be announcing. So we're staging the money. So we'll be announcing the first 40 companies that will get a quarter million each. We'll be announcing those. It'll be worth keeping your eye out for who those 40 are. Then about a year, 18 months later, we'll be announcing 10. They'll get a million dollars each.

All the teams are still in the running. And then the remaining 80 million, 81 million, is up for grabs for whomever can reverse it. You have to reverse a minimum of 10 years. The goal is 20. Do I know why it's $101 million, not $100 million? Yeah, I'm curious about that. The first donor, an amazing man, a guy named Chip Wilson. I don't know if you know Chip. He's the founder of Lululemon. Okay.

And he has a muscular dystrophy called FSHD. I've heard about this. And we're on the phone and he's become a dear friend. I love him. He's a beautiful human being. And he's like, okay, I don't want to put all the money in, but I'll put a chunk in. But he says, how much is Elon's prize again for carbon? I said, it's a hundred million. And he goes, can we make ours 101 million? Okay.

Because I said, okay, if you put the extra million in, so he increased his donation to $36 million. And we also have an additional $10 million bonus prize for a breakthrough in FSHD. And I'm very blessed. There's an incredible woman, Jamie Justice, who's a PhD, who runs this competition. I just raised the money and handed her a set of rules. And she's running this thing. And it's doing amazing.

So proud. Yeah.

Yeah. So I made this book. So Tony Robbins and I wrote this book called Life Forces, 700 pages, New York Times bestseller.

So it was New York Times bestseller for two months, but it's 700 pages. It's hard for someone to read 700 pages.

So I wrote this book as a very digestible how-to. And you can pick up any piece of it. So yes, it's like all the details, everything I do and what I've researched and what works in sleep and exercise and mindset and not dying from something stupid, which is what- I love that. I mean, let me take a second and talk about that. But then it does go into the XPRIZE and where these sciences are going.

Now, doesn't mean, and we can talk about this, some amazing biotechnology coming in the future that will make it a lot easier to My job now is to maintain that. But lots of studies around the world show that there's a direct correlation between the amount of muscle mass, skeletal muscle you have, and your longevity.

There's a chapter called Don't Die from Something Stupid. What does that mean? So you know this. Our body is really great at hiding disease. I tell you in a room of 1,000 or 10,000 people, I'll say, how many of you here are absolutely sure there's nothing going on inside your body you need to know about? Raise your hand. And no one does unless they've just gone through a set of full scans.

Like a found life. Yeah, a found life diagnostic. Four years ago, Tony, Bob Hariri and I, backing from Mark Benioff and others, we built this company called Fountain Life. These are 10,000 square foot facilities. We have four today, four more next year, a road mode map to get to probably about 30, 35 around the world. And you come in, you spend about five hours with us, and we digitize you.

It's everything knowable about you, full body MRI, brain, brain vasculature, coronary CT with an AI overlay, low dose lung CT, DEXA scan, retinal scan, skin scan, full genome, microbiome, metabolome, full blood workup. Again, everything knowable about you. And all of that data then gets digested by our AI system. It's all functional medicine based. The entire company is functional medicine.

We have an amazing chief medical officer, Dr. Helen Messier, who teaches functional medicine. And we have a fountain university. Our doctors, our nurses, our health coaches, everybody's functional medicine. And the AI digests it. And there are two things we're trying to, you come in to answer two questions. Is there anything going on inside your body right now you need to know about? No.

And what's likely to happen to you and how do we prevent it from happening? Wow. Right? I mean, that's what you should know. So here's the results. In our first 5,000 members, 2%, everybody coming in is seemingly healthy. 2% have a cancer they don't know about. Wow. Right? I mean, think about it.

You know someone who went to the hospital, went to the doctor's office with a pain in their side and was like, sorry to tell you this, but you've got stage three or stage four. Right. And it didn't happen that morning. Right. It's been going on for some time. And people go, I don't want to know. I'm saying, bullshit, of course you want to know. You're going to find out eventually.

You want to know now when you do something about it or when it's too late.

So your body is great at hiding that. 70% of all cardiac disease has no precedence, no shortness of breath, no pain. even your calcium score doesn't matter, right? Your calcium score, calcified plaque, unless it's blocking the coronary artery that feeds the heart muscle, sugar, and oxygen, unless it's blocking it, in which case, yeah, you want to see that.

Calcified plaque on the side of a coronary artery is stable. What we've discovered in the last few years, it's something called the soft plaque. Yeah. That's on the wall of the arteries, right? So there's a special AI overlay called Clearly. James Min, Dr. James Min, who invented it, is brilliant.

So again, the chapter on diet, a chapter on sleep, a chapter on muscle, a chapter on mindset, those are things that

And it's the soft plaque that in the middle of the night can break off and block your coronary artery and you don't wake up. And so we can detect through this AI overlay your soft plaque. Most of the cancers that kill people... are not cancers we screen for because we screen for breast and prostate and intestinal cancers. But we don't screen for glioblastomas, pancreatic cancers.

And so we find these things. We've saved hundreds of people's lives. I get thank you notes all the time. Like, God bless you. Thank you for saving my life over and over again. And one of the things that's important is it's not any one thing. It's multimodal, right? It's the imaging plus the blood chemistries plus the grail tests plus everything. All this stuff comes together.

So that's what the chapter on that is. It's not cheap. It's $19,500, but it comes with a medical team for the entire year with a physician, a nurse, a health coach, a dietician. We have just rolled out a $6,500 product called Core, which is through companies for their employees.

It's all the same testing. It's just not with the year-round medical team. The humans still cost a bunch. They'll be demonetized and democratized by AI in the years ahead.

we should be doing now and the way that you do those things is to wrap routine around them yes you know what is routine it's not negotiating with yourself over and over again right right it's like waking up in the morning and like this is who i am sort of the discipline over motivation It is discipline or that's a good point, a good way to put it.

You do. And on my phone is an AI we call Zora that I can query, like, tell me what you saw in my images. Tell me what correlation you have in my blood chemistries and my genetics. You can ask it any question. So that's already functional. It's here. It exists.

Yes. Your doctor will clue you in. And the most important thing is not to get overwhelmed. To give you an actionable plan and to have a nurse, a physician, a health coach, a dietician with you through the year to get you through and improve. And by the way, this is never a one and done. I do this.

I've done this every year, originally through human longevity and now for the last four and a half years with Fountain. Because eventually I'll find something. And I'll say, thank you.

And no human can understand all that. But AI can take it all in, process it, and help you. And then eventually we'll have our AI coaches which say, hey, Gary,

don't take the elevator there's stairs around the corner take that like you know you'll give permission to your ai to watch everything you do see what you're eating listen to your you know your your conversations your emails and it will advise you and so you can turn on health coach And the other thing is, you know, I'm wearing a, where is it? My CGM.

Most people are healthy till 63. And our goal here is, can we at least move your health span up to that 80-year mark? This is the decade of a healthspan revolution, and the biggest impact is going to be coming from AI.

I'm wearing my aura ring and my Apple watch, but I'm in, I'm in, I'm in vest. I'm investing in data. I mean, I'm investing in all these sensor companies because eventually all of this data is, is gonna be uploaded to my AI and uploaded to the robot in my kitchen that will cook the perfect food that my body needs that next hour.

And it's like, it's creating that person who you want to be and who you are. So it's like, I am the person who gets up at this time and does these things. And when you identify with that, it helps you not negotiate and say, well, you know, I want to stay in the cuddly bed a little bit longer or, you know, that dessert, I can rationalize eating that dessert right now.

Yeah.

I used to have people ask me, please tell me. And I had this five-page document and this 10-page document. And I said, screw it. And so there's a whole chapter in the book of exactly what I take and why. And- I do all of this in consultation with my Fountain Life medical team, right? I'm tested at least quarterly, if not more frequently than that. Because I care. Data is power. I agree with you.

And by the way, I talk about in the book a lot of other lower cost programs that you can do. There's Life Force, which is around blood testing and supplements. There is PreNovo, which is only the MRI.

Without the... So there's a lot of different things and I list them all so that people have alternatives. But the way I think about it, there was a paper published in Cell that talked about the hallmarks of aging. And they're originally like nine, now they're like 12. And so when people said, why do we age? there's a number of very specific elements like stem cell exhaustion.

I should just say, first of all, our bodies were never designed to live past age 30. I hate to say it, right? If you think about it 200,000 years ago, you were in puberty at age 12. By 13, you were pregnant before birth control was around. By the time you were 26, 27, 28, you were a grandparent.

And before McDonald's and Whole Foods was here, if you wanted to perpetuate the species and pass on your genes, you didn't want the grandparent stealing food from the grandchildren's mouths. And so lifespan was like 30 years. And so if we look at this, it's just, it is. And a lot of things, I talk about this evolutionary rationale and reason from earlier on.

Our muscle mass starts decreasing after the age of 30. Our hormone levels, right? Our thymus is gone. Our muscles begin to atrophy. All of these things. And you can and should fight it. And I do with all the efforts and all of- Exercise, all the things that you do. All those things.

When you go back to the hallmarks of aging, our stem cell population, so stem cell exhaustion is one of them, the end caps of our DNA, our telomeres, there is mitochondrial degradation that occurs. There's all of these, and I list all 12 hallmarks of aging. And then the way I built my supplements is looking at which are the supplements that can impact each of those 12 hallmarks.

And there's great science behind each of them. So like resveratrol, DHEA. So NAD, nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide, which is the power currency in our cells. David Sinclair did a lot of incredible work on this, and kudos to him. We have these seven sirtuins, these proteins, and the sirtuins have two functions in your cells.

One function is that they are correcting DNA mutation that we accumulate as we get older. Yeah. The other function is they keep- How do they correct a DNA mutation? So they repair it? The sirtuins are part of the DNA repair system, but they also maintain your epigenetic situation. So what do I mean by that?

When you're born, when you're 20, when you're 50, when you're 100, you have the same exact genome. Right. 3.2 billion letters from mom and from dad. Your software doesn't change. So why do you look different at 80 or 100? Why don't you have the six pack you had when you were 18? It's not the software you're running. It's what genes are on and what genes are off. It's your epigenome.

And the control of what genes should be on and which genes should be off is driven by these seven sirtuins. And as we get older, the sirtuins are having to correct DNA damage and keep us from having epigenetic drift. And they are powered by something called NAD+. If they don't have enough NAD, and the NAD in your cells drops by over 50%, as you age.

And so when David and others talk about NMN or NR as a supplement, that is the precursor to NAD. Yeah, you can't really take the NAD orally.

You can, but it doesn't even get into the cell that way. You want a precursor like NMN or NR that crosses the cell surface and gets converted to NAD. The supplements and meds I take are to address those hallmarks of aging. And the science is there. I present it. But I'm very clear. Listen, this is what I do. This is why I do it. Do the research yourself. Find a physician. And start incrementally.

My mom still says to me, Peter, how are you sure those things all don't interact with each other in the wrong way? So mom... I don't know. I don't know. Honestly, I don't know.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's ultimately, that is ultimately, you know, do you look good? Are you thinking clearly? Are you moving well? Are you enjoying life? You know, one of the best pro longevity things I've ever done is having kids at 50. Wow. All right. So two boys at 50, they're 13 now.

And a lot, you know, when I go to sleep every night, one of the things I do as a part of my practice is what are my three favorite memories from the day? What am I grateful for? And almost always it's around them. It's not some deal I closed or some investment I made. Yeah, that's so cool.

I'm scared shitless for my 13-year-olds about AI girlfriends.

Yeah. but uh you're so so right i mean human touch you know i have my community my favorite hug dealer hug dealer t-shirt and which i'm not sure if it's socially acceptable now to have that but it's like yeah yeah just i mean it's like who cares it's like yeah just a Give someone a hug and breathe deep with them and just say, thank you for being in my life. It's a beautiful thing.

These are the fundamental elements of life.

So longevityguidebook.com will give you a whole bunch of resources and a deep discount on the book. Mm-hmm. Please use this book, even if you just pick one chapter to focus on. My goal is to get this information out there. You have control over every aspect of your health. Take, you know, be the CEO of your own health. It's so truly important.

You go to Fountain Life, fountainlife.com to learn more about those offerings. And I hope people will take advantage of it. uh my podcast is called moonshots moonshots yeah and i've had the pleasure of interviewing elon a couple of times and eric schmidt a whole bunch of ai experts a number of folks in the longevity space yeah i'm focused on who's taking the biggest shots in the universe who's

open for, you know, impacting the world at a tremendous level. Yeah. And I need to have you on my Moonshots podcast. Yeah, I'd be happy to be on there. I mean, I'd be honored to be on there. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Yeah. I'll take that. You shoot it out in LA? I shoot out in LA, yeah. Okay. A new studio I built out in Santa Monica. Okay, beautiful. Diamandis.com. I put out two blogs a week.

My job at this point in my life is to inspire. So I talk about something called a massive transformative purpose, an MTP, right? Mark Twain said there are two important days in your life, the day that you were born and the day that you found out why, right? Really beautiful. And so at Singularity and at Abundance360, which is my CEO level forum, I teach creating a massive transformative purpose.

And It's something that wakes you up in the morning, keeps you going through the night. It's what longevity connects with, right? Having a purpose and a future bigger than your past. And my massive transformative purpose is to inspire and guide entrepreneurs to create a hopeful, compelling, and abundant future for humanity.

So my job through the XPRIZE, through Singularity, through all of this is how to help entrepreneurs go big and bold in the world. Yeah. Yeah.

To be my ultimate self is to put it all out, leave nothing in reserve. It's being true to myself, authentic to myself. It is playing all out on my mission and purpose in life. It's being a good person. It's knowing that I have left this planet better than I came into it. I mean, those are the elements and, and to make that happen, I need to have the best physical health I have. Yes. Right.

To, you know, cause I'm, I'm going 24 seven with my eight hours of sleep in there. Yeah. And I'm just, I feel blessed to be alive. This is the most magical time ever in human history. Gosh, I do too. Right. One of my favorite slides I use in presentations is a slide that, that the title is our ancestors would view us as gods.

I mean, just reflect on that for a second. The things that we did this morning is we're omniscient, we're omnipotent, we're omnipresent. We are creating new life forms in AI. I mean, it's amazing the life we're living.

It is.

Yeah. I agree with you a hundred percent. So I have the same philosophy. I'm up typically at 5.30 in the morning. And that starts by being in bed by 9.30 the night before. So I'm at my abundance summit. I've got 600 CEOs, people from around the world. They're partying hardy and they watch me. They say, Peter, come on. Sorry, it's bedtime.

So I'm out of my own events at 9.30, at nine to be in bed by 9.30. And then when I get up at 5.30, that first, really, it's the first 90 minutes. It is my golden time. And I love writing during that time. So I'm writing every day. I've got three books in production. This is the first of the three. I'm very excited about this. Thank you. And I put out two blogs a week, but I'm in the gym.

doing red light therapy, meditating. And it's that period of time that, like you said, it's selfish, it's mine. And it allows me to perform at a much higher level. Now, to be clear, I wasn't always that way, right? And it doesn't mean you go from zero to infinity. I got there over time. I wasn't that way a decade ago. I got into longevity.

I'd started human longevity with Craig Venter and Bob Hury back in 2012. That makes you a great grandfather.

And no human can understand all that, but AI can take it all in, process it, and help you. And ultimately, it's about being in the best health I can in order to intercept these breakthroughs.

I got Brian Johnson into longevity. It's very funny.

I think that's really important because... There are very practical things. It really is an 80-20 rule. If you feel like you have to do it all to get that additional health span, right? Let's upfront say, it's not really lifespan we're talking about. It really is health span. Today, the average lifespan in the United States is call it 79, but the average health span is 63, meaning-

You're living till 79. Hopefully everybody here is going to have a vision of living well.

Yeah, fantastic.

I'm sorry.

Apologies. But the reality is that most people are healthy till 63, then there's a 16-year gap. Yes. And our goal here is can we at least move your health span up to that 80-year mark? Mm-hmm. And yeah, I believe that this is the decade of a healthspan revolution, of a lifespan revolution as well.

And half my life is in the longevity world, half my life is in the AI world, and the biggest impact is going to be coming from AI. I agree with you. We're a collection of 40 trillion cells. Every cell is running one to two billion chemical reactions per second. Mm-hmm. And there's no way for any human to understand the vastness of that, but AI can.

And we're going to be making discovery after discovery after discovery. It all begins with sleep, diet, exercise, and mindset. Dial those in first, and then get ready for an extraordinary ride in the decade ahead.

And by the way, it only works for 20% of the people who it's prescribed for.

Yeah, one of the best pro-longevity things I've ever done is having...

And the biggest shift... That must have been a great line for opening up your dating conversations.

And hopefully that will change in the new administration, right? Under RFK. Yes. Um, and there's so much, it's, it's a disservice that some of my closest friends, some of my, uh, our members at Fountain Life to get advanced therapeutics need to travel outside the U S to, you know, to Costa Rica or Mexico or other places. Um, and, uh, That is all going to change.

The data is going to materialize as well as regulatory reform to support that.

Some amazing things coming. I mean, should we hit some of the basics so that coming out of this podcast, people have some actionable items right away?

But let's break them down. First on diet, if you think about your body, your genetics, what powers you...

evolved 200 000 years ago on the savannas of africa and our dna has not changed very much in 200 000 years and back then uh two things were true number one there was no sugar in the environment you had some small amount of natural fruits there was no refined sugar and the second was there you know feeding was intermediate um there was no defined gluttony of food consistently we didn't have whole foods or or mcdonald's and so um

Today, what I tell people, if you want to go on the diet front, what you can do for yourself, number one, it's cut out this poison called sugar. Refined sugar is a neuroinflammatory, a cardiac inflammatory. We just did a study at Fountain Life in which we looked at cardiac disease as a function of a bunch of things like LDL, HDL, triglycerides, LP little a, all these things you hear about.