Dr. Phil

How do you win an election?

But some of it is just a backlash to what they think was going too far, like all these corporations now that have dropped DEI. Now, in the government, they did it because the order— A backlash for what?

But some of it is just a backlash to what they think was going too far, like all these corporations now that have dropped DEI. Now, in the government, they did it because the order— A backlash for what?

But some of it is just a backlash to what they think was going too far, like all these corporations now that have dropped DEI. Now, in the government, they did it because the order— A backlash for what?

I understand, but equity is the word, not equality. That was a change that people noticed. Equality was everybody gets an equal shot. Equity is like, no, it's basically quotas.

I understand, but equity is the word, not equality. That was a change that people noticed. Equality was everybody gets an equal shot. Equity is like, no, it's basically quotas.

I understand, but equity is the word, not equality. That was a change that people noticed. Equality was everybody gets an equal shot. Equity is like, no, it's basically quotas.

No, it certainly hasn't been. No one's contesting that. No. But that's what the idea, the old school liberal idea was, we need to strive for equality. That changed to equity. This is what some people are against. And reasonable people can disagree on it without being racist. Having said that, there are, of course, racists in this country.

No, it certainly hasn't been. No one's contesting that. No. But that's what the idea, the old school liberal idea was, we need to strive for equality. That changed to equity. This is what some people are against. And reasonable people can disagree on it without being racist. Having said that, there are, of course, racists in this country.

No, it certainly hasn't been. No one's contesting that. No. But that's what the idea, the old school liberal idea was, we need to strive for equality. That changed to equity. This is what some people are against. And reasonable people can disagree on it without being racist. Having said that, there are, of course, racists in this country.

There always will be, just like there will always be criminals.

There always will be, just like there will always be criminals.

There always will be, just like there will always be criminals.

So you're saying no person of color or woman who was not colored was ever hired for any job? I'm sorry. No, no, I'm not saying that.

So you're saying no person of color or woman who was not colored was ever hired for any job? I'm sorry. No, no, I'm not saying that.

So you're saying no person of color or woman who was not colored was ever hired for any job? I'm sorry. No, no, I'm not saying that.

There are places. Okay, I will give you an example because we had fires here recently. I mentioned it on my show, so something new I'm saying. But our fire chief was a lesbian. And I said on my show, do I think a lesbian can do that job? Of course I do. But I think what they did was said, OK, we want to hire a lesbian first.

There are places. Okay, I will give you an example because we had fires here recently. I mentioned it on my show, so something new I'm saying. But our fire chief was a lesbian. And I said on my show, do I think a lesbian can do that job? Of course I do. But I think what they did was said, OK, we want to hire a lesbian first.

There are places. Okay, I will give you an example because we had fires here recently. I mentioned it on my show, so something new I'm saying. But our fire chief was a lesbian. And I said on my show, do I think a lesbian can do that job? Of course I do. But I think what they did was said, OK, we want to hire a lesbian first.

So we're going to hire the best person among lesbians as opposed to we're going to hire the best person. That kind of thing. Now, I'm not saying that's exactly what happened, but to pretend that that kind of thing hasn't been happening in this country. I don't disagree with you on that.