Dr. Rangan Chatterjee

How does persistence, motivation, belief, how does that all play out for that individual?

I'm so excited inside at the moment.

I've got about 10 jumping off points and I can't choose where to go next.

Let me just pick up on a phrase you just used.

You said, if you're someone who's running a marathon and you don't believe you can do it, your perception of suffering will change.

Perception of suffering.

There's so much in those three words.

It kind of says...

You know, suffering is subjective, isn't it?

Right?

It's your perception.

It's not like you either suffer or you don't.

Your beliefs and your views around the world can influence whether you suffer or not.

So they're not using anesthetic.

I mean, if we think just from a purely medical side effect profile, I mean, not needing to use anesthetic, A, in terms of risks, side effects afterwards, all kinds of things, that is a phenomenal thing to reduce risk before surgery.

But it also does something really, really powerful, which is...

train that individual with a skill that they previously didn't know about.

And as you say, I think in the final few chapters of your book, pills don't build skills, right?

So they may do certain things,

but there's also certain things that they can't do and won't do.