Dr. Rhonda Patrick

I kind of wanted to ask you just because we were talking about the timing of... We talked about the anabolic window for carbohydrates, how there really... There truly does seem to be an importance there with respect to at least if you're doing more endurance type of training and you want to be ready for the next day.

But...

protein, you know, Stu Phillips has been on, LeVan Loon, you're in agreement that really the anabolic window is more of a, it's more of a total daily protein intake.

Is that, I mean, I guess, you know, when Lane came on the podcast, he said, maybe there's a little something you can squeeze out if you're like top level, you know, type of, yeah, power lifter, muscle bodybuilder, whatever.

So you just end up having to do protein like all, like, yeah, right.

Yeah, Luke Van Loon actually did a few studies.

I don't know if he collaborated with the person just mentioned, but also on this pre-sleep protein loading where it's like they're giving people protein, a bolus of protein right before bed, and it does increase muscle protein synthesis while they're sleeping.

And again, I think the way he also framed it was you're getting more of your total protein.

You're getting more of that total protein for the day,

but also it seems to make a difference for like elderly people who are just terrible at getting, making, meeting that protein requirement, you know, for whatever reason.

It's just hard to chew or chew food or their appetite isn't, they don't have a, you know, their appetite hormones are kind of dysregulated, whatever the reason.

So, um,

What I wanted to ask you about, because it was kind of interesting, I saw a study you were a co-author on with respect to protein.

Kind of on that sort of same, you know, token, people meeting, it's hard for some people to take in 1.6 grams per kilogram body weight or more, right?

Tough.

So they're taking protein powders.

They're doing the protein powder.

It's the easiest thing, right?

What are your thoughts on whole foods versus powders?

Now, you published an interesting study on protein.