Dr. Rhonda Patrick

I'm not going to be – I'm certainly not going to be chugging the goo, but like the fast – like during like intra-workout, right, while you're racing or even perhaps like you were saying right before, you know, eating the quick – like the stuff that's going to spike your blood glucose quickly.

Yeah.

isn't typically stuff that people that are eating for a longevity type of, like my, my carbohydrate sources are typically vegetables, you know, fruits that have a food fiber matrix.

Most of the time, I mean, some fruits can hit, hit your, your body a little quicker than others like grapes, for example, but you know, um, you know, most of the carbohydrate source are more complex carbohydrates.

So fat often gets overshadowed by protein and carbohydrates.

Where does that come into the equation of meeting your fitness goals, whether you're an endurance athlete or strength training or not necessarily an athlete, just someone who's interested in being healthy and exercising and looking for the longevity aspects of diet and exercise?

Some people think if they're eating a high-fat diet, low-carb diet, and they're doing endurance type of exercise, they're more heavily biased towards endurance training, that they're going to be more fat adapted, they're going to be more metabolically flexible, and their mitochondrial adaptations are going to be superior.

Well, yeah, it does answer the question.

It's basically like, no, you don't have to.

You don't have to.

Eating a higher-fat diet isn't necessarily going to make you better at burning fat.

Oh, no, definitely not.

I certainly think that when it comes down to that metabolic flexibility exercise, again, when you're doing a lot of exercise, you actually are becoming more metabolically flexible through exercise, in my opinion, than anything else.

What do you think about – so I've had Marty Kabbalah on the podcast talking about high-intensity interval training and how – obviously when you're doing – a lot of people think when you're doing –

hit that it's like this all i'm only burning glucose right you know if i'm doing zone two i'm only burning fat only oxidizing fat and using mitochondria and they don't realize there's actually a lot of gray going on like you're doing high intensity interval training types of exercise you're yeah you're you're you're you know going above the lactate threshold you're you're using glucose as fuel but you're also still using your mitochondria right i mean yeah you're pushing them hard and

Right.

No, it's true.

I mean, it's, but people like to kind of put this, I think Lane explained this in a good way, how people like just put things in bins, like it's like this bin or this bin.

And it's like, well, there's sometimes there's a lot of, there's not bins.

They're just kind of just overlap.