Dr. Rhonda Patrick

Yeah.

And that's really what matters.

Right.

I agree.

So that's kind of where I'm at.

Yeah, if there's a researcher doing that, I'll look into that.

But kind of going back to this fat cells and shrinking, and you were talking about the adipocytes kind of becoming insulin resistant first.

And that kind of leads into something that I forgot I wanted to ask you about as we were talking about some of this before.

And that is, you know, insulin resistance doesn't happen at the same time in all tissues, right?

And so it'd be kind of nice to just talk about that briefly while we continue on in terms of like the muscle, the adipose tissue, the liver.

What happens when each of those become insulin resistant?

And you also talked about adipose tissue maybe first.

Is that then contributing to the other ones then becoming insulin resistant?

Going back to this fat cell hyperplasia, forming lots of different fat cells versus this swelling of it, the hypertrophy.

If a person loses weight, let's say they're on a weight loss diet, they're restricting their calories, they're doing low carb, they're exercising, any of the combination of those.

What happens to the fat cells?

Do they shrink?

They shrink.

They shrink.

Do they ever die?