Dr. Rhonda Patrick

Good, good, good.

Water versus any sugar.

Like it doesn't have to be glucose or fructose.

Well, I'm talking about a specific type of sugar without a food matrix, right?

It's a liquid, 40 grams in a can.

If you have two of those, it's 80, right?

So I'm just saying like consuming a high sugar beverage with no food matrix, not like substituting a carbohydrate food because it's different.

No, that doesn't make any sense.

Okay, so non-nutritive sweeteners.

There's definitely the artificial sweeteners that you're talking about, the sucralose, the aspartame, saccharin, right?

And there's the more natural ones, monk fruit, stevia.

What I'm getting from you, and I just want to make sure it's clear, is that people that are consuming these sugar-sweetened beverages, if they substitute them with like a diet soda, which has aspartame, am I right?

Okay.

Then it's clearly a benefit.

Studies show it.

They're losing weight.

I mean, you know.

Getting more metabolically healthy.

More metabolically healthy.

Let's talk about someone who doesn't drink sodas, like, that are sugar-sweetened, and they're lean, and they kind of just – like, there's some people out there that, like, diet Coke a day.