Dr. Rhonda Patrick

I do think there's a strong possibility based on the very limited evidence so far that heated seed oils might cause more inflammation compared to consuming them, certainly in whole foods, but even just like putting it on a salad.

I don't know.

What are your thoughts?

Well, we have options too, right?

What about avocado oil or olive oil?

Do you think that maybe just getting one of those options?

What about the phenol, polyphenols in olive oil?

There's some studies showing like randomized controlled trials showing a beneficial effect just from on cardiovascular disease with olive oil.

Well, let's talk about the other thing you mentioned that is definitely a hot topic, which is the refined sugar.

And I know you've delved deeply into this topic.

It's a lot of reading of the evidence.

It's something that you've talked about.

I want to ask you if you view consuming refined sugar, particularly in the form of sugar-sweetened beverages, like something that's just liquid and sugar, if calories are the same, if people aren't over-consuming calories, do you think –

that's something that is still inert, not that harmful?

Or do you think perhaps there's a reason to say, I mean, maybe we shouldn't drink sugar-sweetened beverage.

Like, you know, I know you don't like to say that because then there's the whole psychology part, but there's diet sodas, right?

But they're both sugar.

Right.

So what about not consuming, just consuming water?

Oh, okay.