Dr. Rick Hanson

Really good research on psychotherapy for, say, anxiety and depression showed that on average, there was a moderate effect size on average. Some people got more, some people got less, but the average in numerical terms, the way this is done, about 0.6. That's moderate. That's legitimate. It's credible. It doesn't work for everybody. Average benefit, pretty good. 40 years later,

New theories, new understanding, new personalities, new charisma. What's the average response to psychotherapy for anxiety or depression? It's the same. There's no trend whatsoever of average improvement. So we've gotten a lot better at helping people have various experiences. We've gotten no better at helping them learn from them. And so to me, there's a call for action here.

New theories, new understanding, new personalities, new charisma. What's the average response to psychotherapy for anxiety or depression? It's the same. There's no trend whatsoever of average improvement. So we've gotten a lot better at helping people have various experiences. We've gotten no better at helping them learn from them. And so to me, there's a call for action here.

New theories, new understanding, new personalities, new charisma. What's the average response to psychotherapy for anxiety or depression? It's the same. There's no trend whatsoever of average improvement. So we've gotten a lot better at helping people have various experiences. We've gotten no better at helping them learn from them. And so to me, there's a call for action here.

So when I tell you candidly, yeah, there's been very little research on one paper and a couple other related papers so far that have to do with teaching people how to deliberately internalize useful experiences, you know, to grow the good that lasts inside. And there's been no research on the underlying neurobiology of that. So to me, it's not a critique of what I'm trying to say.

So when I tell you candidly, yeah, there's been very little research on one paper and a couple other related papers so far that have to do with teaching people how to deliberately internalize useful experiences, you know, to grow the good that lasts inside. And there's been no research on the underlying neurobiology of that. So to me, it's not a critique of what I'm trying to say.

So when I tell you candidly, yeah, there's been very little research on one paper and a couple other related papers so far that have to do with teaching people how to deliberately internalize useful experiences, you know, to grow the good that lasts inside. And there's been no research on the underlying neurobiology of that. So to me, it's not a critique of what I'm trying to say.

It's a plea for more investigation in this really important area.

It's a plea for more investigation in this really important area.

It's a plea for more investigation in this really important area.

They're all better today than they were 40 years ago. There are improvements. We want to see improvements in certain areas.

They're all better today than they were 40 years ago. There are improvements. We want to see improvements in certain areas.

They're all better today than they were 40 years ago. There are improvements. We want to see improvements in certain areas.

it's really strange if you think about it that, and you see this in the spiritual traditions as well, certainly the ones I'm familiar with, mindfulness training, Buddhist-y kinds of situations, very sincere teachers, very good at helping people have experiences. And sometimes in a growth 1.0 model, um,

it's really strange if you think about it that, and you see this in the spiritual traditions as well, certainly the ones I'm familiar with, mindfulness training, Buddhist-y kinds of situations, very sincere teachers, very good at helping people have experiences. And sometimes in a growth 1.0 model, um,

it's really strange if you think about it that, and you see this in the spiritual traditions as well, certainly the ones I'm familiar with, mindfulness training, Buddhist-y kinds of situations, very sincere teachers, very good at helping people have experiences. And sometimes in a growth 1.0 model, um,

those different settings or different kinds of trainings engender certain experiences in people that tend to have more impact, like being in groups of others or having intense experiences. Like Tony Robbins is a master at himself engendering states and factors that promote emotional learning in people. Phenomenal. And still, and this is no critique of him.

those different settings or different kinds of trainings engender certain experiences in people that tend to have more impact, like being in groups of others or having intense experiences. Like Tony Robbins is a master at himself engendering states and factors that promote emotional learning in people. Phenomenal. And still, and this is no critique of him.

those different settings or different kinds of trainings engender certain experiences in people that tend to have more impact, like being in groups of others or having intense experiences. Like Tony Robbins is a master at himself engendering states and factors that promote emotional learning in people. Phenomenal. And still, and this is no critique of him.

I did the firewalk with him like 30 years ago. I've made it through it. It was cool stuff. But he's not teaching people on the inside out how to deliberately internalize the experiences they're having at the time so that they really land in some kind of system.