Dr. Rob Bart

And I had some exposure to that both when I was at Cerner and also when I was at LA County.

But to have that more formalized and sort of readily available to me was also something I was very interested in.

It can be.

I mean, it's very clear my primary role is with the health services, which is the delivery of care, the hospitals, the clinics, physicians, nurses, etc.

But there's some unique opportunities having a payer and a delivery system under one roof.

that if we align them, we can really actually align what the patient member needs and wants and gets along with how we deliver care.

And so I get the opportunity to work closely with my counterparts on the health plan and working with either development of programs or the technology to support programs that they're working through.

It's a little bit different, though, than a model, say, like Kaiser that many people are familiar with.

Kaiser being what most of us consider a closed system where all of the patients are members.

Depending on the region of UPMC, we have areas that are as high as 50% patient members, but we also have areas that are much lower where 10% of the patients are also members.

And so creating programs actually takes a little bit of thought in how you execute them well.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, so, you know, enterprises was certainly had a, had a long storied history before I got here.

I think one of the things I worked hard, I noticed when I got here was the enterprises was sometimes working on really good ideas and projects and incubating companies and

But they weren't necessarily getting the type of success with the integration with the clinicians here.

It was almost like they would throw it over the fence and expecting someone like me to catch it and run with it.

And so one of the things that I worked hard on is I said, look, if we partner on these, we can help what you believe should be successful be successful.

Right.