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Dr. Roel Konijnendijk

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849 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

We're going to stomp on you now.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And they go around the Greek world essentially sort of splitting up states and breaking up federations because they claim it's a violation of the peace.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And that's how they get to be the biggest fish in a very small pond, in a shrinking pond, essentially.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So they kind of manipulate the wording of it to kind of suit their own agendas there.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Well, it's not just for you, it's Xenophon, right?

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Like he actually steps in.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Well, that's because he and I are like this.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Sorry, yeah, that's it.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

You're all made Xenophon.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Like he actually invokes the gods at this point.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

He says, you know, everything was going great for Sparta, but at this point they offended the gods.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

This is actually like divine retribution will follow because they have committed this horrendous sort of

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

It's not just a misstep or a diplomatic faux pas or even just a military sort of provocation.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

It's actually just they've done wrong, right?

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

They've done something that is sort of morally reprehensible.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

No Greek condones it.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And so, you know, retribution will follow.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

In a nutshell, the Thebans actually, initially, they have to put up with it.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

This is a Spartan-backed oligarchy as well, same as in Athens before.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So you have an oligarchy that was already pro-Spartan, which is propped up by this garrison.