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Dr. Roel Konijnendijk

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Cleom Brotus has a bit of a point to prove as well, because he's led the last few campaigns against the Boeotians and people have thought that he was kind of lackluster in his leadership.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

He didn't really want to hurt the Thebans.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

He wasn't making an effort.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And so he is now being driven by people who are sort of watching him.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And this is a very Spartan thing, right?

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

There's a lot of social peer-to-peer control, right?

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

There's a lot of scrutiny.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

He is being watched by his subordinates saying, is he going to do it?

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So Cleom Brotus has to fight.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And this is something Agus Leia is presumably relying on to be like, he'll do the job, you know?

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

He absolutely does the job.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

I mean, this is very much it.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Yeah, he does what's expected of him, but it just goes against him.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Although to be fair, they've done that before.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

I mean, the Spartans have this law against cowardice, right?

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

If you run away from battle, you're supposed to be punished or socially ostracized and all this kind of thing.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

But they never actually do it.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Especially if a significant number of Spartans runs away from battle or surrenders, like on bacteria, they will always say like, let's just, you know, let's find a loophole.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So there's literally, I mean, we have these different accounts of these kinds of laws that exist at Sparta for cowardice.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

We have one occasion where they were applied after Thermopylae because one guy survived and that was very bad for him.