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Dr. Roel Konijnendijk

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And then we have three occasions where it's attested that they don't enact the law.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

They let the law sleep.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

The number of occasions where it is used is actually outnumbered by the number of cases where we're explicitly told that it was not applied.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

But fundamentally, after Luke 2, I mean, it's an earthquake.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

It's an absolute overturning of everything that the Greeks thought they knew about the Spartans and about their power structures and everything else.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

not just demographically, which is a very important point, but also because in the final instance, Spartan hegemony rests on the idea that individually, Sparta could beat all of you.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Individually, all of those states that are allied to Sparta, if they band together, they might be able to get away with it.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

But if they individually resist Sparta, Sparta is just going to destroy them.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

They have the military power to trump each individual state.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

But at this point, people are starting to say, maybe that's not actually true.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Maybe we can actually throw off the yoke and still feel safe.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

I mean, yes, this is exactly what the Thebans do.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And this is why sometimes this has been considered to be the first sort of strategic offensive.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Like it's not just beating them in battle and then saying, look, we've beaten you, let's make a treaty.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

But actually proceeding into the Peloponnese and dismantling Spartan power at a local level.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So what they do is they liberate Mycenae.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

which at this point has been under Spartan subjection for, according to tradition, like 200 years or even longer, 400 years, depending on which source you follow on this.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

But for ages, Sparta has been able to double its territory by seizing Mycenae.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

It is now liberated.