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Dr. Roel Konijnendijk

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
849 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

The Spartans will never recover that.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

But when you're talking about the fall of a city, I do kind of want to see something more dramatic than saying, okay, well, they have to relegate themselves.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

They have to acknowledge increasingly that they are just a second-rate power now.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

The actual invasion and destruction of Spartan territory happens a few times, even with the Thebans, but they aren't able to take the city.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

That doesn't happen until very much later.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

But you do get these increasing sort of incremental stages of further reduction of Spartan power in the decades that follow.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Also, for instance, Philip II invades Sparta and strips away a number of its territories, gives them to neighboring states or makes them autonomous.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So Spartan territory keeps on shrinking further and further.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

They have to give hostages to Alexander the Great after they try rebelling against him, which also obviously ends very badly.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And so you have these continuous attempts by the Spartans to try and say, look, we still matter.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

We still have manpower.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

We still have money.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

We still have wealth.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

We still have territory.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Let's try and expand it.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Let's try and go back.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And they never really give that up.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

throughout the third century.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

That's a century after this.