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Dr. Roel Konijnendijk

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

He also writes about topics that other sources or Xenophon perhaps might not be so interested in.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So he gives all these biographies, you know, you get all these glimpses of other parts of the Greek world and even beyond that.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And Diodorus obviously preserves this continuous history.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

I mean, he was trying to write a universal history.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Most of it is lost, but there is a significant chunk, especially the fourth century, that's preserved entire.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So you actually rely on him.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Once Xenophon's narrative ends in 362, you have Diodorus, and otherwise you would have very little at all.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

But I also want to mention a couple of other sources that become very prominent in the fourth century, especially the orators, because in the fifth you have just the first beginning of that.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

in the fourth century, the Athenian orators, these writers who write essentially speeches to the assembly, speeches to the council and speeches in courts, and they become a hugely important additional source.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

They're obviously hugely problematic in all sorts of ways, but they actually give us a whole extra layer and often they refer to and appeal to and organise in some ways historical events as well.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Justin is precious because he is summarizing a lost Philippic, right?

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So there was a whole tradition of people writing histories of Philip of Macedon.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And we have the summary of Diodorus and we have the summaries of Justin.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And so we do need them both in order to get something like a story.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And yeah, Justin is problematic, but Justin is one of those authors who talks about when Sparta built a wall for the first time for the incident.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So there are important things that are reported by Justin that otherwise we would find much more difficult.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

I mean, it's right to be harsh on Justin, but you know, he also, we also can't afford to throw anything out.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

That's the problem of ancient history in general.