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Dr. Roel Konijnendijk

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Appearances Over Time

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

When they go to war against Elis, the Thebans and the Corinthians refuse to march with them.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

When they go across to Asia Minor to fight the Persians, Thebans and Corinthians refuse to march with them.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

They just keep saying, yeah, you can tell us to go, but we just won't go.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Which is telling you so much about the extent to which Sparta is still able to tell people, to order people around.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Big question, actually.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Yeah, this is actually Alcibiades' influence, right?

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So he is the one who seduces the other Spartan king's wife, which is where his offspring is of doubted parentage, which allows Agesilaus to become king.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So it's all Alcibiades' fault.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

We don't need to talk about him anymore.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So, Augustus Laeus takes over in Asia Minor, leads a large army.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

This is obviously when the Persians realized they have to respond in force.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And there's different stories about how the eventual Corinthian war breaks out.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

One of those stories is very prominent in the sources.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

It's essentially that the Persians send a guy to the mainland Greeks with a big bag of money saying, would you like to fight the Spartans?

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

in exchange for this big bag of money.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Xenophon implies that a lot of people are very happy with this big bag of money that others rejected but are happy to fight the Spartans anyway.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Supposedly the Athenians are like, no, we'll do it for free.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

There is a lot of discontent that sort of bubbles to the surface at that point and the money may or may not have been a sort of nudge, a further sort of nudge in that direction.