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Dr. Roel Konijnendijk

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1345 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

The other account, Hellenic Oxyrhynchia, I think doesn't mention the money at all, is not interested in saying you were bribed into it.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So are these papyri?

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Yeah, so this is a papyrus story, another source.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

If you want to get really nerdy about it, there is a rival account which helps us in some cases and complicates things in others.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Anyway, this is why the Persians are important, but also because they have been, as I said, marinating this Athenian commander and building a fleet around him.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

which at that point they actually send into the Aegean to challenge the Spartans.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And so that is the moment when Persians are sort of simultaneously starting a war on land that is waged by a coalition of Greek states and a war at sea, which is waged very much by the Persians themselves.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

I mean, so it plays out very differently on land and sea, which is why Xenophon actually separates these two things.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

He talks only about the land campaigns and at the very end he's like, also, we go back a few years in time and then talk about the sea campaign, which is very interesting as a historical structure.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

That's actually very novel.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Fundamentally, on land, you have a coalition of Athens, Argos, Corinth, and Thebes, the four greatest cities on the mainland.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Arguably, each of them individually is a larger population than Sparta.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

They band together.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

They try to fight the Spartans.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

It goes very badly for them.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So Sparta does recall Agasileus from Asia Minor, which is what the Persians want.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So in that sense, the Persians get this early win.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

But he marches back into the mainland and defeats the coalition army that is gathered against him.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

That's actually the second battle, the Battle of Nemea that happens earlier.

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

There's a huge coalition going against the Spartans that also gets absolutely trapped.

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