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Dr. Roel Konijnendijk

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1345 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And not just, I mean, it's very well noticed at the time as well.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

I mean, there's a really interesting passage in Deinarchus where he actually says that, oh, we keep quoting at each other this time, this decree that the Thebans issued that they helped us when we were in trouble as a way to persuade the assembly to help them when they are in trouble, right?

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

This is something that is remembered.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And one of the people who backed this, the Theban uprising, was one of the people who was involved in this Athenian uprising.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So you have this kind of quid pro quo thing where, okay, we'll help you get your state back.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So they send these exiles in and they manage to drive the Spartan garrison out, which triggers the so-called Boeotian War.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

It's only a few years after the Spartans take over.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

There's this protracted conflict where the Spartans keep having to send troops to Thebes or to Boeotia into the region.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

essentially to try and reassert themselves, but they can't seem to get anything done.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

They really just sort of fruitlessly campaigning.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

They managed to nibble away some of the minor cities of the region, but they can't do anything to put Thebes back in its place, essentially.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Gorgidas is the one who created Peloponnese.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

I mean, this is us hypothesizing what makes this force so effective, because we know that it's effective, but we don't actually know anything about its training regime or its organization.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

The sacred band, exactly.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And the rest of the Boeotian army under Theban control, we know a little bit more, but it doesn't seem to show any special features.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

One of the things that the Boeotians really do play out in this conflict is they have very strong cavalry, which obviously works very well for them when they're defending their territory, because that's one of the things that cavalry is really good at.