Dr. Ronda Marie Chakolis-Hassan

Let's look at kind of shifting the model and the way we do things.

I also, I wanted to piggyback on that.

In Minnesota, they have a legislation that actually pays for that.

I think one of the things is a knowledge gap with providers and where to get that done.

North Carolina has done some phenomenal work in terms of blood pressure, but also even with mental health medications, SSRIs, atypical antipsychotics.

There is the information out there.

I think it's really about, um,

people not knowing, and then again, navigating that payer system.

When you don't know something, you can't navigate it.

I've had several patients in the community that I've worked with, I had them go back and ask for their doctor and their doctor says, oh no, absolutely, this isn't being done.

Well, I have them hand them this piece of paper and they say, oh wow, I never knew about that.

And I think it kind of goes back to how we see clinical guidelines for so long,

I started in the area of practice where we had race-based calculations or race-based clinical algorithms.

We all know now with the information that's out there that that is completely not needed, but we actually have something because, you know, people in the sciences love algorithms and different things.

We really have the opportunity to say, hey, this is Dr. Chikola Sasan.

She's an ultra rapid metabolizer of

um, narcotics, which I am.

So like, if I take pain medicine, you might as well just almost not give it to me.

Cause it's not going to really do anything for me.

So I just tell them like, Hey, give me some propanolol and, uh, maybe some Benadryl and put me out.