Dr. Sanjay Gupta

And it would be really interesting to see whether what your findings are not only benefit people with high blood pressure, but also with type 2 diabetes, also with obesity, because I think they're all different streams.

from an unhappy body.

And I see this all the time.

So I will go up to my coronary care unit, and I'll have a patient there who's had a heart attack.

So let's say a 60-year-old man, heart attack.

And I'd say, well, what are his risk factors?

And the doctor who's presenting the patient will say, oh, he's had diabetes and high blood pressure.

And I said, how long has he had diabetes and high blood pressure?

Oh, well, he's had diabetes and high blood pressure for 20 years.

And I say, okay, and has he been treated for those?

And they say, yeah, he's been on tablets.

And I say, so why has he had a heart attack?

Because he's got diabetes and high blood pressure.

So what were we treating him for?

But no one looks at it like that.

No one says, okay, perhaps...

That is a failure in the treatment that we've been giving that patient, that he has still ended up having the outcome.

You know, we have to be a little bit more reflective.

We can't just say, oh, he's been on treatment, but hey-ho, people on treatment still have heart attacks.

Absolutely.