Dr. Sanjay Gupta

And now when I say that to them, I'll get some version of, why don't we just do the case tomorrow then when the technology is working?

And I think their point being a little bit like, hey, man, if it were me, if I were the patient on that table, I would want the technology.

So the fact that you're not utilizing it, you may be giving me less than what is currently the best standard of care.

And maybe AI falls into that same bucket.

Look, you're the guy.

You know, I think people come to you for thoughts on these big issues like this, and I certainly enjoyed reading the book very much.

I mean, we've talked about so many optimistic things today, Bob, right?

I mean, the benefits for physicians in terms of what they can provide for patients, for patients to be able to have access to things that they maybe didn't have access to before.

I really enjoyed the conversation.

I love your books.

I always learn so much, and it's a real privilege to be able to have this time with you.

Thank you.

That was Dr. Bob Wachter from the University of California, San Francisco.

He's got a new book out.

It's called A Giant Leap, How AI is Transforming Healthcare and What That Means for Our Future.

Thanks so much for listening.

We did reach out to some of the companies behind these tools.

A spokesperson at Google, which is the parent company of Gemini, told us, quote, We work in close consultation with medical professionals to build safeguards in the Gemini app.

We've always been transparent that Gemini should be for informational use, and we build reminders directly into the app, prompting users to double-check information and consult with qualified professionals when asked about medical matters."

Other companies, including OpenAI, the parent company of ChatGPT, Anthropic, the parent company of Claude, and Perplexity, did not respond to our request for comment.