Dr. Sanjay Gupta

I think more people are having heart attacks.

I think younger people are having heart attacks.

I think places like America where they have stricter guidelines still are having more heart attacks than other places.

Yeah, and if you look at the data, the number needed to treat is the number needed to treat being an idea as to how many people you have to treat

to achieve benefit in one person, be that some kind of reduction in a hard endpoint, death or a heart attack or something like that.

And the number needed to treat is big.

You may have to treat between 30 and 60 people for several years to achieve benefit in one person.

So the question then is, we have to look at that and say, is that good enough?

If those were the returns in a bank, I wouldn't be putting my money in that bank.

I don't think it'll be a case of one reading because I think the first reading tends to be a little bit higher and then the second reading's a little bit lower and the third reading's even better.

But whatever you do, you're looking for changes.

You want to do the same thing every time so that you're comparing apples with apples.

So I would say perhaps, you know, you measure your blood pressure twice a day, do...

three recordings, record the third one on each occasion and do that for a few days.

And you calculate a general average from that.

And if that's okay, and you're doing the best you can in terms of your lifestyle, that's okay.

Well, I certainly think if it's like 160, you know, some people would say even over 140 persistently, then it's a good idea to go and see your physician.

And you take those readings with you and show them to them.

Because at the end of the day, when the physician measures it, it's going to be higher.

So I don't understand why one would put more credence on that.