Dr. Sanjay Gupta

Okay, and so then all of a sudden, the dummy hand starts to feel like your hand.

And all of a sudden, they take a hammer and they smash the hand.

It's not even your hand.

Because the mirror neurons are firing.

That's right.

So, you know, the idea that you can, you're tricking the brain, obviously, but the point is not to trick the brain.

The point is to show you that all pain exists in the brain.

Your brain decided that hurt, even though it wasn't even your hand.

It really is.

I think it's different because when you have a structural problem, whether it be in your spine or a joint, you're continuously activating those pain receptors.

And so that is a little different than somebody who basically you look at them and you got, there's nothing going on here.

structurally, anatomically, otherwise.

There's no injury, whatever it might be.

So then you have to focus more on what other parts of this pain system are not working properly.

And that's all going to be in the brain.

So, you know, like Rich Roll, I talked to him the other day.

He had a very significant spine problem.

front and the back.

Yes, yes.

I, you know, Rich is a good friend.