Dr. Sanjay Gupta

So we have a visual sort of representation of the patient in the room at all times.

But sometimes, Bob, I'll say to my residents, I'll say, hey, let's pretend that

that the technology failed.

And now you got to do it, quote unquote, the old fashioned way.

And 10 years ago, when I would say that, it kind of made sense.

And now when I say that to them, I'll get some version of, why don't we just do the case tomorrow then when the technology is working?

And I think their point being a little bit like, hey, man, if it were me, if I were the patient on that table, I would want the technology.

So the fact that you're not utilizing it, you may be giving me less than what is currently the best standard of care.

And maybe AI falls into that same bucket.

Look, you're the guy.

You know, I think people come to you for thoughts on these big issues like this, and I certainly enjoyed reading the book very much.

I mean, we've talked about so many optimistic things today, Bob, right?

I mean, the benefits for physicians in terms of what they can provide for patients, for patients to be able to have access to things that they maybe didn't have access to before.

I really enjoyed the conversation.

I love your books.

I always learn so much, and it's a real privilege to be able to have this time with you.

Thank you.

That was Dr. Bob Wachter from the University of California, San Francisco.

He's got a new book out.

It's called A Giant Leap, How AI is Transforming Healthcare and What That Means for Our Future.