Dr. Sara Gottfried

Was it used in a way that was, you know, trying to change behavior in a negative way?

So you can measure that.

You can do it with the adverse childhood experiences score.

That's right.

So that's pretty high, Sean.

Yeah, so it's, you know, you can't tell from looking at a person what their ACE score is.

And what we know is that that level of trauma is associated with 45 different diseases, not just the ones you think of like depression or anxiety or even post-traumatic stress disorder, but autoimmune disease, stroke, cardiovascular disease.

Whoa.

There's a long list.

A lot of people don't realize it.

I mean, the good news is when you identify the trauma and how it affects your physiology, you can do something about it.

So there's lots of ways that you can take that trauma footprint and change it.

And a lot of people become very self-reliant.

They become achievement oriented as a way of trying to create safety and security.

And so a lot of entrepreneurs, a lot of really successful people have high A scores.

I think awareness is where you start.

So knowing what your ACE score is, is critical.

And then you have to look at your relationships.

And I think it's it really shows up in relationships tends to show up often with success and the kind of folks that we're talking about here, but then their relationships might suffer.

So if you get into a trauma bond with a partner, that can lead to a lot of issues where, you know, you're trying to resolve some of that power over dynamic.