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Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
Of course, there are challenges with that.
Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
Yeah, well, presumably you could inject into the brain as well, right?
Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
There are ways in which you can inject through either surgery or through an injection in the spinal canal, like intrathecally.
Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
So that's certainly one way in which you can do it.
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Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
It is very challenging though, because of course the brain has a lot of cell types.
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Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
And, you know, you very often, the way you deliver this, like through a virus or through other modalities, you know, there's only so much
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Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
of that virus that you can actually put inside the nervous system.
Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
And the efficiency is not yet like very high.
Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
So another way is to go like one level down.
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Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
So that gene will produce an RNA that will produce a protein.
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Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
So perhaps we don't have to correct the DNA everywhere, but perhaps we can correct something that happens downstream.
Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
And that's so like being the strategy that we've been using primarily.
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Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
Just mostly because at this point, and probably in the future it will be possible, who knows, like in 10 years or maybe even earlier, we'll be able to deliver very effectively some of the genetic therapies using CRISPR.
Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
And they're very often modified to make sure that they don't cause disease.
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Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
Of course, another limitation of that is that if the gene is really large,
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Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
It simply won't fit in a virus.
Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
So, for instance, that would be the case if you think about a calcium channel.
Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
Calcium channel is a gigantic gene.
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Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
It would be very difficult to fit inside a virus.
Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca
And then, of course, the other thing is like with these viruses very often, especially with the adenoviruses or AAVs, is that you have one shot.