Dr. Shoshana Ungerleider

Yeah.

I mean, we're living in a time, certainly, when trust in institutions is incredibly fragile.

So what do you think needs to happen to rebuild trust in public health and science more broadly so we can avoid these vaccine-preventable deaths, for example?

For people who want to help combat health misinformation, whether you're an expert or not, what can we do?

And where does somebody begin with this?

Yeah, I think that's so helpful, that framing.

My last question for you is one of the things I often think about is how do we stay hopeful when the stakes feel so high, especially in this moment in time?

What is giving you hope?

Well, I am so grateful to you for your work and for this conversation.

You've given me some more hope, at least today.

So thank you so much.

Thanks again for inviting me.

And that's it for today's episode.

Thanks so much for listening.

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This episode was produced by me, Shoshana Unkerleider, and Jess Shane.

Edited by Alejandra Salazar and fact-checked by Vanessa Garcia-Woodworth.

Special thanks to Maria Lajas, Farrah DeGrange, Daniela Balarezo, Constanza Gallardo, Tansika Sangmarniwang, and Roxanne Highlash.