Dr. Simone Gold

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And it taught me that whoever's making these decisions either was totally incompetent or completely compromised. How come they weren't going to Cedars-Sinai or UCLA? Why? Did they lobby better? Did they say, we don't want the Ebola? It made no sense. It made no sense whatsoever. I hope I'm being clear. It's just that I couldn't live with it. So I stopped that policy.
And fortunately, no potential Ebola patients came. But I was horrified that my nurses were expendable. And that was the only calculation that could have been. I mean, anybody with any resources didn't go to my hospital. You went to Cedars-Sinai or you went to UCLA. Why was the choice made in Washington, D.C., that we'll send them to the poorest, worst, least provided, least equipped hospital?
hospital in the area.
Well, I was on the ground.
You know, if a potentially Ebola patient had landed, I would have walked out. It didn't happen. I was a beloved doctor, so I stayed.
I'm not even sure people understood what I was saying.
Do you know what I'm saying? Okay, so, okay. I made a very hard time finding doctors in these poor, innocent hospitals. Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
I forgot about it until years later.
So all through 2020, as we started hearing about this China virus, which is how it was referred for five months or so, until China threw a hissy fit, I was researching everything. And honestly, I was excited. I'm an ER doctor. I like emergencies. For me, this is exciting stuff.
I read every journal article that came out, and I'm talking about it with my peers, and I was discovering that my peers were completely incurious. I was... shocked. I don't even know. I was devastated. I was devastated. I didn't know that my peers were not curious about diseases and emergencies.
Yes, I think up until that point, you know, you would talk to your peers. A person would come with a hip fracture. They come with a pneumonia or an asthma or heart attack. And so you're all doing kind of the same thing, right? Because it's kind of the right thing to do.
And so you just, you know, you maybe ask a question here or there, but it was never outside the box. None of us were outside the box at all. But all of a sudden we had a brand new disease, brand new thing, and nobody knew what to do, right? The whole world doesn't know what to do. But I was reading all the literature, and it was patently obvious that hydroxychloroquine worked.
Now, it wasn't a coincidence. Okay, justify that, Clayton. The reason we knew it worked is because SARS-2 virus, which caused COVID-19, was 78% identical to SARS-1 virus. SARS-1 virus was 15 or 18 years earlier, and chloroquine fixed it. Chloroquine treated it. So very early on, scientists doing research in the labs discovered that hydroxychloroquine also stopped the SARS-2 virus. Not a surprise.
They're like, oh.
Okay, so COVID-19 was caused by the SARS-2 virus. Everyone kept calling this the novel coronavirus.
I have no idea to this day. Talk about misnomers, which you're an expert at.
What was novel about it?
It was 78% identical to SARS-1. So there was a SARS-1 18 years earlier. Yeah.
So the SARS-1 respiratory virus, also from Asia, Chloroquine was very helpful, and it worked, and there you go. So when SARS-2 came around, scientists in China, scientist Didier Raoul in France, started studying hydroxychloroquine, which, by the way, is a mechanism of action. It's like the same as chloroquine, but safer.
So if you see a chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine study, they're equally good. So they start studying it, and lo and behold, unsurprisingly, completely unsurprisingly, of course it worked against SARS-2, it worked against SARS-1. Not a shock, 78% identical. So I'm reading on this. And this is in 2020? This is in, yes, February of 2020 was when the first...
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