Dr. Simone Gold
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard Jun 2025
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studies came out i don't think in january 2020 but this is very very early this is when you would start there wasn't any coronavirus task force committee i think until february or march of 2020 so the studies that show well before the lockdowns before absolutely yes 15 so why are you on this show because i'm interested because i'm an er doctor so for me this was fun don't mean to sound like crazy people well that's how scientists think
It's like, oh my God, there's an emergency. I'm an emergency doctor. This is coming to me. Let me read about it. I was so curious about the whole thing. Every free minute I was reading about it. I mean, this is, I can't even describe it.
You're like, if you were an emergency, if you left cars and you're a car mechanic and there's a new car that comes out, you'd be so excited to like check it out, right? Okay, I'm an emergency doctor. There's an emergency all across the world. Nobody knows what it is. Let me dive in. I'm getting all excited, prepared, reading. And I know that they're going to be my future patients. Right.
Like it wasn't just my ego satisfaction. It's like, I am going to be on the line. And everybody was panicked, which I don't panic. So I was even more excited. I'm like, let me just be calm and read everything. I read everything. There were studies in China.
I'm probably a little bit neurotic.
Why not?
I just think you can figure it out.
That's my basic presumption. Your father had everything to do with that? I mean, I think you grew up as a daughter of a Holocaust survivor. Maybe you're... you put things in perspective. I mean, I wouldn't panic over things most Americans would panic over just because I knew what my father went through.
There have been many, many respiratory viruses and pandemics throughout human history and also even in American history. Like every year. Like all the time. So I was a little... I mean, I'm a human too and living in America, you're pummeled all the time with this. It became that the subject, it was the only subject people were talking about.
So I would say I considered the possibility that I was wrong. So I would say for the month of March, I was cautious. Like I would come home from the ER and I would strip my clothes off. and change my clothes outside and I'd wash up before I'd go in. So I thought there's always possibilities. There's something I didn't know.
Like maybe this is the only virus in the history of the world to act a certain way. And so I was humble about it. I said, well, maybe there's something. But everything that... people were saying was contradictory to everything. It contradicted Public Health 101. It contradicted how viruses worked. Everything was off.
So in March, when our country, I don't remember exactly when Trump said, we'll do 15 days to stop the spread. It was March, I think, March of 2020. And that's also when March 15th or something is when he spoke out in favor of hydroxychloroquine. And the world turned upside down for me right then. So that's a really critical moment.
Up until the day Trump mentioned... Because he was pilloried for that. Yes, I think it was March 17th he said it. So on March 17th, Donald Trump spoke in favor of hydroxychloroquine. Now, I had been talking to my peers for the previous two months. What do you think about hydroxychloroquine? The response was, ah. And I said, well, aren't you going to use it when you get your first COVID patient?
And people are like, yeah, probably, I guess. I don't know. Like nobody was reading, which I found weird. Okay, all right. March 17th, he gets pilloried for hydroxychloroquine. My next ER shift, oh my gosh, nobody, it was like, oh no, I'm never gonna use that. That's terrible, that's dangerous, terrible stuff. And I looked at my peers, but they're my peers still. I didn't know what was coming.
I was like, huh. Why? Like last week you didn't care. Oh no, it's very bad, very dangerous. I'm like, why is it? And they start saying whatever they heard on the news or on Facebook. That was my lesson number two. Wow, you're just incurious. You're literally like a Facebook. Like why do people pay you as a doctor? Like I didn't get it.
Like you were literally just saying what they said at a press conference. I thought it was weird that they went from not caring about hydroxy, no problem, to saying, oh, verboten.
So I hear what you're saying. That is a good point. That ER job where I do most of my work was in a... politically kind of conservative area. It's where Kevin McCarthy is the congressman. So it wasn't like a hatred of Trump in that area, but the world had come down against hydroxychloroquine. And my doctors- And why was that?
Oh, well, we know the answer now. We know the answer now.
Right. First of all, in real time, it was bizarre people coming out against it. It's 70 years approved by the FDA. It's completely denied across the world. It's over the counter. Oh, yeah. So those are the reasons. Well, it turns out in America to release the vaccine on an EUA, an emergency use authorization schedule.
The prerequisite is that there's no other treatment available.
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