Dr. Steven Gundry
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Well, I made a bold statement when I wrote The Plant Paradox, which came out eight years ago now, that
Whatever problem you have, whether it's acne, whether it's eczema, whether it's autoimmune disease, whether it's migraines, whether it's high blood pressure, whether it's diabetes, you name the, whether it's joint pain, you name the problem, I'm going to try to convince you it's from a dysbiotic gut microbiome and a leaky gut. And if we fix that, that problem will go away.
Whatever problem you have, whether it's acne, whether it's eczema, whether it's autoimmune disease, whether it's migraines, whether it's high blood pressure, whether it's diabetes, you name the, whether it's joint pain, you name the problem, I'm going to try to convince you it's from a dysbiotic gut microbiome and a leaky gut. And if we fix that, that problem will go away.
I'll give you an example of a patient I saw yesterday. I still see patients six days a week, even on the weekend. I started at eight and finished at five. So this lady has a long history of eczema. And it would pop up. It was kind of on her chin when I saw her yesterday. And so we had just done leaky gut tests on her. And we also did a series of autoimmune tests.
I'll give you an example of a patient I saw yesterday. I still see patients six days a week, even on the weekend. I started at eight and finished at five. So this lady has a long history of eczema. And it would pop up. It was kind of on her chin when I saw her yesterday. And so we had just done leaky gut tests on her. And we also did a series of autoimmune tests.
And number one, she had leaky gut. Surprise, surprise. And number two, she had a marker, which is called anti-nuclear antibody. Very common autoimmune marker. Some people call it lupus. Um, but it's very common in people with psoriasis and other conditions and eczema. And so as we were kind of reviewing this, she says, well, wait a minute. I have an autoimmune disease.
And number one, she had leaky gut. Surprise, surprise. And number two, she had a marker, which is called anti-nuclear antibody. Very common autoimmune marker. Some people call it lupus. Um, but it's very common in people with psoriasis and other conditions and eczema. And so as we were kind of reviewing this, she says, well, wait a minute. I have an autoimmune disease.
And I said, well, yeah, you have eczema. That's an autoimmune disease, right? No, it's eczema. And I said, well, you know, it didn't just happen. Yeah. And, She says, yeah, but, you know, I can put steroid cream on it and it'll get better. I said, yeah, because that steroid cream is telling your white blood cells to stop attacking your skin. And she said, that's what it's doing? I said, yeah.
And I said, well, yeah, you have eczema. That's an autoimmune disease, right? No, it's eczema. And I said, well, you know, it didn't just happen. Yeah. And, She says, yeah, but, you know, I can put steroid cream on it and it'll get better. I said, yeah, because that steroid cream is telling your white blood cells to stop attacking your skin. And she said, that's what it's doing? I said, yeah.
She said, well, why am I attacking my skin? I said, because you have a leaky gut and your white blood cells look at certain proteins in your skin that look very much like what they're looking for in the foods you eat. And it's called molecular mimicry. And it was actually first proposed by a professor at Colorado State by the name of Loren Cordain, kind of the father of the paleo diet, years ago.
She said, well, why am I attacking my skin? I said, because you have a leaky gut and your white blood cells look at certain proteins in your skin that look very much like what they're looking for in the foods you eat. And it's called molecular mimicry. And it was actually first proposed by a professor at Colorado State by the name of Loren Cordain, kind of the father of the paleo diet, years ago.
And now most of us working in autoimmune disease realize that molecular mimicry from leaky gut is how autoimmune disease happens. So here's a lady who's had eczema most of her life, and now the good news is we know why, and believe it or not, we can fix it. And it'll take about nine months to a year to repair her leaky gut.
And now most of us working in autoimmune disease realize that molecular mimicry from leaky gut is how autoimmune disease happens. So here's a lady who's had eczema most of her life, and now the good news is we know why, and believe it or not, we can fix it. And it'll take about nine months to a year to repair her leaky gut.
When I started this 25 years ago, I was naive, and I thought, oh, we can fix leaky gut in a couple weeks.
When I started this 25 years ago, I was naive, and I thought, oh, we can fix leaky gut in a couple weeks.
it takes work and the book is okay I've been doing this for 25 years here's and I've been seeing patients six days a week for 25 years asking them to take certain foods out of their diet put certain foods in their diet go get some supplements that'll help etc etc here's what here's what works you and I've hopefully taken the guesswork out of this. So.
it takes work and the book is okay I've been doing this for 25 years here's and I've been seeing patients six days a week for 25 years asking them to take certain foods out of their diet put certain foods in their diet go get some supplements that'll help etc etc here's what here's what works you and I've hopefully taken the guesswork out of this. So.
So 30 years ago when I was professor and chairman of cardiothoracic surgery and pediatrics at Loma Linda University School of Medicine here in Southern California, I was one of these famous heart surgeons who would take on impossible cases. And there's always a few of us idiots around the country who, you know, if everybody else turned you down, you know, come on, I'll do it.
So 30 years ago when I was professor and chairman of cardiothoracic surgery and pediatrics at Loma Linda University School of Medicine here in Southern California, I was one of these famous heart surgeons who would take on impossible cases. And there's always a few of us idiots around the country who, you know, if everybody else turned you down, you know, come on, I'll do it.
And so I met a guy who I call Big Ed in all my books. He was 48 years old from Miami, Florida. And he had a coronary angiogram, a movie of the blood vessel of his heart, where he had inoperable coronary artery disease. That means he had so many blockages that you couldn't put a stent in because there'd be a blockage right beyond that. And you couldn't do bypasses because...