Dr. Steven Gundry

And so I met a guy who I call Big Ed in all my books. He was 48 years old from Miami, Florida. And he had a coronary angiogram, a movie of the blood vessel of his heart, where he had inoperable coronary artery disease. That means he had so many blockages that you couldn't put a stent in because there'd be a blockage right beyond that. And you couldn't do bypasses because...

there wasn't any place to land a bypass because everything was all clogged up. And so he would go, spent six months going around the country to these various centers that would take people like him on and everybody turned him down. And so he arrived in my office after six months of doing this. And I was kind of his last stop. And

there wasn't any place to land a bypass because everything was all clogged up. And so he would go, spent six months going around the country to these various centers that would take people like him on and everybody turned him down. And so he arrived in my office after six months of doing this. And I was kind of his last stop. And

I looked at the angiogram that he brought from Miami of six months earlier, and I said, you know, I'd love to help you, but they're all right. They're right. There's nothing I can do for you. And he says, yeah, that's what they all said, but let me tell you what I've been up to. Still see his face. He says, I've been on a diet for the last six months, and I've lost 45 pounds.

I looked at the angiogram that he brought from Miami of six months earlier, and I said, you know, I'd love to help you, but they're all right. They're right. There's nothing I can do for you. And he says, yeah, that's what they all said, but let me tell you what I've been up to. Still see his face. He says, I've been on a diet for the last six months, and I've lost 45 pounds.

Now, this was a guy who was 265 pounds when I met him, so he was well over it. 300 pounds. Wow. And he said, I went to a health food store, and I've been taking all these supplements. And he literally brought in a giant shopping bag of supplements. And he says, you know, I've been taking these supplements. He said, you know, maybe I did something in here.

Now, this was a guy who was 265 pounds when I met him, so he was well over it. 300 pounds. Wow. And he said, I went to a health food store, and I've been taking all these supplements. And he literally brought in a giant shopping bag of supplements. And he says, you know, I've been taking these supplements. He said, you know, maybe I did something in here.

So I'm scratching my professor beard and going, well, you know, good for you for losing weight, but that's not going to do anything in here. And I know what you did with all those supplements. You made expensive urine, which was – I believe. I said, you've wasted your money. And he said, look, I've come all this way. What would it hurt to get another angiogram of my heart?

So I'm scratching my professor beard and going, well, you know, good for you for losing weight, but that's not going to do anything in here. And I know what you did with all those supplements. You made expensive urine, which was – I believe. I said, you've wasted your money. And he said, look, I've come all this way. What would it hurt to get another angiogram of my heart?

Another cardiac catheterization. I'm rolling my eyes and I say, don't get your helps up, but yeah, okay, let's do it. So the next day we get a new angiogram and in six months time, this guy has cleaned out 50% of the blockages in his heart. Really? I'm looking at the tube. Now, that's impossible. At least that's what I believed back then. Right, right.

Another cardiac catheterization. I'm rolling my eyes and I say, don't get your helps up, but yeah, okay, let's do it. So the next day we get a new angiogram and in six months time, this guy has cleaned out 50% of the blockages in his heart. Really? I'm looking at the tube. Now, that's impossible. At least that's what I believed back then. Right, right.

So there's a saying, if all you've got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. So I said, this is great news. Now there's places that I can do a bypass. And we did a five-vessel bypass on the guy, and he did fine. The researcher in me says, tell me about this diet.

So there's a saying, if all you've got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. So I said, this is great news. Now there's places that I can do a bypass. And we did a five-vessel bypass on the guy, and he did fine. The researcher in me says, tell me about this diet.

All right. I'm curious. Yeah, you're curious, aren't you? So he starts rattling off what he's been doing. And I had the blessing back in the dark ages of going to Yale University in the Dark Ages, when we could actually design our own major. It was kind of like a master's program. So we would have a thesis, and we had to defend the thesis.

All right. I'm curious. Yeah, you're curious, aren't you? So he starts rattling off what he's been doing. And I had the blessing back in the dark ages of going to Yale University in the Dark Ages, when we could actually design our own major. It was kind of like a master's program. So we would have a thesis, and we had to defend the thesis.

So my thesis was you could take a great ape, manipulate its food supply, manipulate its environment, and prove you would arrive at a human being. And I defended my thesis and I got an honors and I gave it to my parents and went off and became a famous art surgeon. So as big as it's talking, I'm going, wait a minute, you know, time out. That's my thesis from Yale University of what ancient man ate.

So my thesis was you could take a great ape, manipulate its food supply, manipulate its environment, and prove you would arrive at a human being. And I defended my thesis and I got an honors and I gave it to my parents and went off and became a famous art surgeon. So as big as it's talking, I'm going, wait a minute, you know, time out. That's my thesis from Yale University of what ancient man ate.

And so that's number one. Number two, I go, let me look at those stuff. So I was famous for keeping hearts alive during heart surgery. I invented a catheter and a method to protect hearts. And we would put lots of interesting ingredients in the veins and arteries of the heart to protect it from dying. And I'm looking at his supplements.

And so that's number one. Number two, I go, let me look at those stuff. So I was famous for keeping hearts alive during heart surgery. I invented a catheter and a method to protect hearts. And we would put lots of interesting ingredients in the veins and arteries of the heart to protect it from dying. And I'm looking at his supplements.

And a lot of the supplements, I'm putting down the veins and arteries of his heart intravenously. And it never occurred to me to swallow the dumb things. Wow.