Dr. Steven Hassan

Even now he hates it.

Have we found the source of why you hate football so much?

So they basically become the intermediary between you and God.

They go, you don't speak to God, I speak to God.

So that's how they also don't stand up to scrutiny is they remove you from your environment so that you have fewer people or fewer places that can make you doubt them.

Phobia indoctrination.

Damn.

Does it make it harder for you to trust your own doubts and instincts when you're surrounded by many seemingly reasonable people

who agree with what you're being taught.

Oh, yeah.

It's the reason armies can march further together than they can... Remember when the first large military, like the way we think of militaries, started marching in unison on a beat.

Yeah, Roman military.

Yeah, marching together on a beat with a drum and with like a vibe.

Totally.

They went further and they got less tired.

Yeah, because that thing...

It does something to us that we don't fully understand as humans.

Yeah.

Okay.

But you see now that for me taps into one of the greatest conundrums in society.