Dr. Tara Swart

Please welcome to On Purpose, Dr. Tara Swart. Tara, it's such a joy to have you here, honestly.

No, no, this is something I was looking forward to all week. I can promise you it's a Thursday for anyone who's listening. And I've been recording all week and I was really excited to sit down with you. I think the work that you're doing is so similar in value to the work I'm trying to do in the world.

No, no, this is something I was looking forward to all week. I can promise you it's a Thursday for anyone who's listening. And I've been recording all week and I was really excited to sit down with you. I think the work that you're doing is so similar in value to the work I'm trying to do in the world.

I really believe that for so long, ancient wisdom and the wisdom of the East especially has been seen through two lenses. I think there's been a lot of enthusiasm towards it and a lot of value and reverence. And at the same time, I think there's been, as you say, skepticism and cynicism around it. And so to have someone of your caliber, your research, your insight,

I really believe that for so long, ancient wisdom and the wisdom of the East especially has been seen through two lenses. I think there's been a lot of enthusiasm towards it and a lot of value and reverence. And at the same time, I think there's been, as you say, skepticism and cynicism around it. And so to have someone of your caliber, your research, your insight,

And communicating in the way you do, I think, is such a great blessing and benefit for the industry in and of itself. So thank you so much for the work you do.

And communicating in the way you do, I think, is such a great blessing and benefit for the industry in and of itself. So thank you so much for the work you do.

It really means the world. But let's dive straight in. And if you hear me and Tara lock into some... what would I call them? Inside jokes, because we're both North Londoners, then just please roll with us. But Tara, I wanted to start off with where did you and why did you get so passionate about this work and finding the parallels between ancient wisdom and modern science?

It really means the world. But let's dive straight in. And if you hear me and Tara lock into some... what would I call them? Inside jokes, because we're both North Londoners, then just please roll with us. But Tara, I wanted to start off with where did you and why did you get so passionate about this work and finding the parallels between ancient wisdom and modern science?

And why did that work call you?

And why did that work call you?

It's fascinating that all of these things have been practiced for thousands and thousands of years. And ironically, we've also had mental health and anxiety challenges for much longer than we believe we have. And I often think of the Bhagavad Gita and Arjun, which, you know, was spoken 5,000 years ago, But that experience that he's having on the battlefield is anxiety, stress.

It's fascinating that all of these things have been practiced for thousands and thousands of years. And ironically, we've also had mental health and anxiety challenges for much longer than we believe we have. And I often think of the Bhagavad Gita and Arjun, which, you know, was spoken 5,000 years ago, But that experience that he's having on the battlefield is anxiety, stress.

He's having a sense of a loss of identity. He's worried about the surroundings and the impending war that's about to take place. And so you see that in a text that's 5,000 years old. And then you have all of this wisdom that surrounds it. But being able to translate that into what's happening now is so needed. And I guess that's why you had that positive response.

He's having a sense of a loss of identity. He's worried about the surroundings and the impending war that's about to take place. And so you see that in a text that's 5,000 years old. And then you have all of this wisdom that surrounds it. But being able to translate that into what's happening now is so needed. And I guess that's why you had that positive response.

Yeah, absolutely. It's not new at all. This idea then that we have the power to change our destiny, this idea that we have the power to propel our lives, whether it's careers, whether it's relationships, we have the ability to shift and pivot. A lot of people will hear that and they think to themselves, well, that doesn't happen to me. It happens for those people.

Yeah, absolutely. It's not new at all. This idea then that we have the power to change our destiny, this idea that we have the power to propel our lives, whether it's careers, whether it's relationships, we have the ability to shift and pivot. A lot of people will hear that and they think to themselves, well, that doesn't happen to me. It happens for those people.

They hear that and think, yeah, you can't really think your way into anything. Or people hear it and say, no, I tried that once and it didn't work for me. How do you approach that conversation of helping people realize the power that they hold and the power of what's possible for any one of us?

They hear that and think, yeah, you can't really think your way into anything. Or people hear it and say, no, I tried that once and it didn't work for me. How do you approach that conversation of helping people realize the power that they hold and the power of what's possible for any one of us?

Did you find a difference? And I want to get into the science and research part to show the validity of what you're saying. Did you find a difference in the science of measuring extrinsic and intrinsic motivators? Because I feel like manifestation is still always about what do you want? Where do you want to be? And as, you know, honestly, I can only really speak for myself.