Dr. Thomas Madden

Who were fighting the war in the Hundred Years War.

So

Yeah, but that's the truth for everything.

I mean, the church is made up of fallible people.

And every one of them is a sinner.

So they're all going to sin.

What's the glory of the church is that it is founded by Jesus Christ, and it will protect and defend the true faith.

So it's not that you're not going to have bad Christians.

You'll have plenty of them.

In fact, they're the ones who need it the most.

No, there's been some very, very bad popes.

In fact, I always say that one of the greatest evidence of the Holy Spirit moving through the church is the fact that as bad as some of those popes were, none of them ever taught error in faith and morals.

I mean, they're pope.

They could have literally said almost anything they wanted to.

But none of them did.

I mean, the worst of them, the worst days of the papacy were primarily in the 10th century and parts of the 9th century.

All of Europe was in a bad situation then.

It was all being attacked by outsiders.

Vikings are everywhere.

You have Muslim brigands who are attacking everywhere.