Dr. Thomas Madden

They're hard to eradicate.

Yeah, and this gets written up.

The one thing that the English and the Dutch and the Protestant groups, they had lots of printing presses, and they printed all of this stuff, a lot.

And it fused into American society.

through England and became part of, you know, American Protestant culture.

Yeah, the medieval Inquisition was—here's the punchline.

The medieval Inquisition actually saved lives.

It saved people from being burned at the stake.

And here's why.

Explain yourself.

Yeah.

The church's position on heresy is what Christ said.

You know, if your brother sins against you, go and bring another so there'll be a witness.

If he doesn't listen to them, then take him to the church.

If he doesn't listen to the church, treat him as you would a tax collector.

And so...

The church's position always was, if you're really determined not to believe what we believe, then you're out.

You're not part of us anymore.

You're excommunicated.

That's the sum total of the church's penalty for heresy.