Dr. Will Bulsiewicz

With my younger brothers.

And the only person that wasn't there was my dad.

Wow.

You're seven?

I was seven.

And so we moved seven hours away, but eventually the court system says you got to come back to Syracuse, New York.

So we go back and the way, this is the 1980s.

the way that the court system back then, I don't know what they do now, I have no clue, but the way that they dealt with it back then was to basically say, well, the oldest son, he's old enough to be able to give us answers.

Oh my gosh.

Seven?

Oh, seven.

And so then that what basically unfolded from there was like a series of like psychologists and court appointed counselors.

And I would like do these sessions where you're sitting there with a psychologist and they're like, draw me a picture of this or whatever.

and so and this was like an ongoing like this is not like a short-term thing this is like yeah like maybe a year and a half of this kind of stuff and during this period of time i know obviously that my parents are not together right and i know that that like they're not getting along and i also know that this is court related so basically like the words that i provide are ultimately going to dictate what happens with these parents

So within that context for me, I think, I mean, I may be wrong, but I think that there's like this natural psychology that takes over, at least it did for me.

There's this natural psychology that took over me of basically being like, well, you gotta pick the winner.

Who's the good one and who's the bad one?

Because one of them is good and the other is bad.

It's the way it has to be.

So I chose my mom.