Dr. Xanthe Weston

They're amateurs, putting people at risk, putting themselves at risk.

And we're just seeing an escalation of that.

So it's all tied together.

They are.

And it's almost kind of like it's been described as almost like an air tasker.

So I'm not suggesting they're being recruited on air tasker, but they are being recruited on other similar apps.

So that could be Signal or even Roblox, which is a gaming app, you know.

And they're literally posting jobs for them to do.

The jobs are being posted anonymously, but often they also want video evidence of the job being done.

So there's that post and boast thing because the kids get some cred from, I just did a firebombing amongst their peers.

They don't really understand the implications.

And a lot of them want to get involved in these gangs because they see the lucrative nature.

They're getting rewarded.

Key element of this is reward.

So they're posting their videos of their successes.

And we're literally talking like $500,000 up to, say, $10,000 or $20,000 for more serious crimes.

But the ones the kids are doing, like literally 13, 14, 15-year-old kids, a few hundred dollars to firebomb.

a tobacconist or a nightclub or wherever.

We don't know whether it's an international group because obviously these jobs can be posted anywhere.

Crime is international.