Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This is Australian True Crime with Michelle Laurie, and this week we have an old friend on the show. She's the artist formerly known as Xanthi Mallett, but she's gotten married, so she's now known as Dr Xanthi Weston, and she is a criminologist. Of course, she teaches criminology at university. Xanthi's joining us to talk about the hospitality wars that are gripping Melbourne.
We want to know why nightclubs and even brothels are being firebombed. This is Australian True Crime. We acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which this podcast is created, the Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung people of the Kulin Nation.
You know, it's almost like we've reverted back to like the 1920s, isn't it? You know, and you've got like the gangsters taking over the cities. I think we're kind of seeing a bit more of that now. We're seeing serious, organised criminals. But what they're doing is actually engaging, recruiting young people, particularly online, and they are recruiting them, paying them a few hundred dollars.
to undertake these fire bombings, attempted kidnappings, aggravated break and enters, all targeting these hospitality venues. And I do think it's a continuation of what we saw with the tobacco wars, as they've been dubbed. And it is a war. There is a war on the streets.
Chapter 2: What are the 'hospitality wars' gripping Melbourne?
When we saw fire bombings of tobacconists over and over again, the same businesses being targeted. Now, the purpose there was to get those, you know, to take control of the illicit tobacco trade. It's so lucrative. And the more expensive things get, the more lucrative it gets for the underground trade.
Chapter 3: Why are nightclubs and brothels being firebombed?
Right. So I think we've seen an expansion of that. Alcohol is super expensive. It has a huge markup revenue wise for organized criminals. So, of course, they're in that market. But we have seen a shift in the way they're actually undertaking this war.
And it's these kids, literally kids who are taking on these jobs, doing these firebombings and doing a bad job of it because they don't know what they're doing. They're amateurs, putting people at risk, putting themselves at risk. And we're just seeing an escalation of that. So it's all tied together.
I'm going to tie in the stories about youth gangs as well, because oftentimes this is reflected as, you know, our teenagers are wild. There's gangs on the street. Sometimes there's racial connotations. There'll be like Sudanese gangs or something. But actually, these are young people who are being recruited by proper criminals, aren't they?
They are. And it's almost kind of like it's been described as almost like an air tasker. So I'm not suggesting they're being recruited on air tasker, but they are being recruited on other similar apps. So that could be Signal or even Roblox, which is a gaming app, you know. And they're literally posting jobs for them to do.
The jobs are being posted anonymously, but often they also want video evidence of the job being done. So there's that post and boast thing because the kids get some cred from, I just did a firebombing amongst their peers. They don't really understand the implications. And a lot of them want to get involved in these gangs because they see the lucrative nature. They're getting rewarded.
Key element of this is reward. So they're posting their videos of their successes. And we're literally talking like $500,000 up to, say, $10,000 or $20,000 for more serious crimes. But the ones the kids are doing, like literally 13, 14, 15-year-old kids, a few hundred dollars to firebomb. a tobacconist or a nightclub or wherever.
We don't know whether it's an international group because obviously these jobs can be posted anywhere. Crime is international. Drugs, guns, all these trades, alcohol, tobacco, they're all international. So all these networks are working in different places in the world. It's been suggested to me that this could be a Russian group that are doing this.
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Chapter 4: How are young people being recruited for criminal activities?
Is it Russian? I don't know. It could be anyone, right?
Because it's all anonymous. I'm fascinated by the Iraqi connection. We know that there was a young man, an Australian man, a 23-year-old who was based in Iraq, Kazim Hamad. He was allegedly directing a lot of the violence around the tobacco industry. He was arrested in Iraq in January 2026 by the Australian Federal Police and Iraqi authorities.
Well, that's interesting that we managed to get an arrest warrant in Iraq. Yes. But what happens with these gangs, though, the problem is if one person is arrested or one piece is taken out of play, as it were, then that void is filled pretty quickly. So, you know, these gangs are not going away.
Well, it's interesting timing when you look at that, I guess. If he was arrested in January, these firebombings have really ramped up since then.
Yeah, absolutely. We've seen something like over the last two, three weeks, we've seen at least 15 that have been all connected to this, all the hospitality. And it seems to be around that illicit alcohol trade. And so, yes, somebody has stepped into that void and is really up to the ante in the last few weeks.
Okay. So this is about, I hadn't even joined the dots on alcohol. I couldn't figure out what was going on, but that makes sense because we know that the tobacco war was about importing cigarettes from overseas, cheap cigarettes, selling them cheaply. I've told you before, every mum I know smokes these illegal cigarettes. A lot of Australians just don't see the problem with it.
All they see is that the Australian tobacco has a tax on it that makes it 50 bucks a packet and these ones are 13.
Which I get, right? right? But they're feeding organised crime. And these are the same people who are involved in people smuggling and sex trafficking and all these other things that we would go, oh, that's awful. Yeah, I don't want to support that. But no, oh my God, we wouldn't support that. But I'll go and buy my cheap cigarettes because I don't want to pay you 50 bucks a pack, right?
Which, yeah, okay. But you're actually giving this money to these organised criminals just like when you buy illicit alcohol. But So it feels like it's only one person doing something a bit naughty. But actually, the people engaging with black market goods are feeding this industry and causing this harm. If there was no money in it, these criminals wouldn't be doing it.
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Chapter 5: What role do social media and gaming apps play in crime recruitment?
They may have already had contact with the police. They may be in out-of-home care. So they're the ones who already don't have adults who are there protecting them, intervening. You know, they're already vulnerable. So they are easier to target and coerce into these activities. And I don't think the ban on under-16s on social media has really helped. They found a way around it.
Platforms aren't necessarily being particularly supportive of that ban. So I think there are some things that we can do to help kind of drive kids away from these activities. I think education, we need to educate them and the parents, but an education campaign needs to be from the other young people. Yeah. Maybe young people have been caught up in this.
Like we can sit here and we can talk to young people till we're blue in the fleece and a 16, 17 year old is going to look at me and think I'm super uncool. Although I like to think I'm cool. But, you know, kids look at us and go, what do they know? Right. Yeah. But another 17 year old who's who's maybe been to juvenile detention or who was harmed in a firebombing or something. Yeah.
they can reach them on a different level. But also I think we need to take away the rewards generally on these platforms, the likes, the posts, the boasting, the algorithmic upscaling of harmful content. If you take away the reward element, kids aren't going to want to do it.
Imagine if you killed somebody. Imagine you're a 12-, 13-year-old kid, you've been offered $200. Horrendous.
I know, horrendous.
And so easily can happen in this scenario.
Because these hospitality venues are well populated. They're in busy areas. Somebody's going to die soon.
Yeah, absolutely.
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