Dr. Zand van Tulleken

What I thought was so interesting about her work is that you can find a whole area of medicine that's neglected, that is not just important, of course it's important for the millions of people with lymphedema, that it may be a bit that we're missing, a missing piece of the puzzle in medicine.

in Crohn's disease, in loads and loads of other conditions.

And I thought that was so striking, that humility of going, we don't know a lot.

It's so lovely to hear that from a medical researcher.