Drew Burney

Like, like you have the habits, like you said, are pretty simple.

Then you have the emotional layer.

Then you have the, do you see it like that or is that too simplistic?

Are there other things we can do besides therapy?

I mean, I would encourage anybody who is like struggling with this to start there.

Honestly, it's the most reliable.

Yes, it takes a long time, but it's the most reliable way to kind of come change your adaptations around any of this, whether it's emotional, whether it's behavioral, whatever.

I don't know.

What about like meditation?

Where does meditation fit into this?

Yeah, I would definitely agree with that.

That disidentification with thought and emotion.

that moment that you realized it was wrong it suddenly doesn't feel like it's yours anymore you know it almost feels like this thing you're looking at on the table in front of you and you're like i can't believe i believe that i've gotten pretty good about disidentifying with my thoughts disidentifying with emotions is harder for me i would say i can do it it just takes a little more effort it takes a little more uh focus and patience and time but ultimately that is kind of that's kind of one of my goals too is to

I think that's part of what they mean by integration too, right?

When people talk about integrating all of these and we're integrating our adaptations or integrating whatever, I think part of that is being able to separate from your emotions, but identify them and really sit with them.

Nothing makes sense.

You're wrong about everything.

Kind of puts them in a little box.

You can compartmentalize this way and yeah.

in an accident well and it's just that's that's efficient too right it's like from an evolutionary standpoint you're born into this environment so you like the rule should be if this happens then do this and it's super efficient for your brain and body and metabolism and everything like that yeah i've always seen it as like