Drew Burney

That probably sounds a little more optimistic than it actually is to be, to be frank, because, um,

Really what happens is it's more like you just realize at some point like, oh, yeah, I'm different now.

There was no like bright light moment where this all changed.

It was just you're walking down the street and you're like, oh, I don't feel that way anymore.

And I have this new value system and that's in place.

And this is my life now.

I don't think it's as romantic as people want to want to make it necessarily.

Right, right.

I get that.

I agree with that, too.

I think a lot of times, though, this change isn't nearly as...

It's probably not as sexy as a lot of people think.

And really what Bridges, his whole point was that people don't resist the change necessarily.

They resist those transitions.

We hold onto those old selves, whether they were helping us or not, whether they were healthy or not.

We'll cling to them because again, it's safe.

We know it at least.

There's no uncertainty about it.

The phase one, the ending, the grieving space, that's, again, it's disorienting and it's painful and we don't know where we're going with it.

People resist that transition.