Drew Burney

There's a one to two ratio again, four to eight.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If you are experiencing a panic attack and you're doing the breathing, like you said, though, and it is calming, it does calm you down.

I think what's going on actually is it's not so much the breath itself.

It's more you're becoming more aware of your internal bodily states.

I think it's just a redirection from...

external, oh my God, everything's on fire to, hey, what's actually going on in here?

Oh, I can handle this.

Then move on.

Because if you sit and you dwell too long on it, that is an anxious frame of mind that you're just putting yourself into.

It's a tool for the moment.

Check in, you're good, put it down and walk away.

Because as soon as you start ruminating, that becomes the counter productivity.

can't just stop taking that.

Yeah.

Yeah, it makes sense.

I mean, benzodiazepines operate on the same system that alcohol does too, the GABA system, which is an inhibitory system for the most part.

So it makes sense that that, yeah, it extinguishes that fear response when you're doing therapy and you're addressing...

uncertainties and fears and all of that.

Extinguishing that probably has something to do with the way you learn about those things.