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Dwarkesh Hirani

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373 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

So people would want to invest.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

The Silicon Valley would want to invest in China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

Why would getting rid of capital controls make capital go the other way?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

And this goes into other questions of why is it the case that the Chinese stock market has performed so badly, even though the economy has grown a lot?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

And then why is it the case that...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

they have a current account surplus and they're basically accumulating T-bills.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

The pattern you should see, obviously, is that they can earn much higher rates of return building productive things in China than accumulating 4% yield T-bills.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

But the companies aren't socialist, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

The companies are profit-seeking.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

What is the sort of outer loop feedback like?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

The thing which keeps the system disciplined, here there's private investors who care about actually earning a rate of return.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

And so they're only going to invest in companies which they think have a viable shot of becoming huge companies that can actually be at the frontier in technology.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

If these banks are not actually competing against real investors.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

And it's not their money.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

Exactly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

So they don't care.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

But it seems like this is compatible with many of the world's leading companies being developed in the system.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

So how is it working?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

But doesn't this just belie the whole idea?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

And CATL and DJI.