Dwarkesh Hirani

But so far, after the deep sea became a big deal, the immediate reaction, it seems, in China was all the different big tech companies, WeChat, Tencent, everybody was encouraged to adopt it.

And they did adopt it as fast as possible.

Xi himself met with Lin Wenfeng and did a whole meeting where all the industrial heads were there and discussed.

And Xi said we have to accelerate, I don't know, whatever, technology in China, et cetera.

So it seems like so far the response has been the greater the capabilities of AI, the more they're excited about it, the more they think this is the beginning of Chinese greatness.

But you think that changes at some point?

Suppose it turns out you were saying, look, they can help High Flyer source GPUs and et cetera.

What is the mechanism by which, suppose it turns out that for High Flyer to continue making, DeepSeq to continue making progress, they need all the GPUs that Huawei can produce and they need a whole bunch of other things.

They need energy.

They need data centers.

What would it actually look like for the government to say every single Huawei GPU has to go to DeepSeek?

They're going to get access to all this spare land to build data centers.

Who would coordinate that?

Would that be the leading cybersecurity group?

Would that be somebody else?

Delta and Road View too.

Yeah, exactly.

Does it have any end implication to the progression of AI?

Who actually ends up controlling these leading groups?

Whose purview it ends up under?