Dwarkesh Kheterpal

Yeah, you mentioned the Meta AI app now has a billion active users.

Not the app, not the app.

And I guess to finish the question, the bearish case would be that if the future of AI is less about just answering your questions and more so just being a virtual coworker,

It's not clear how meta AI instead inside of WhatsApp gives you the relevant training data to make, you know, like a fully autonomous programmer, remote worker.

So, yeah, in that case, does it not matter that much who has more distribution right now with LLMs?

Okay, so on this point of AI-generated content or AI interactions, already people have meaningful relationships with AI therapists, AI friends, maybe more.

And this is just going to get more intense as these AIs become more unique and more personable, more intelligent, more spontaneous and funny and so forth.

How do we make sure people are going to have relationships with AIs?

How do we make sure that these are healthy relationships?

Yeah.

I did get a chance to check out Orion the other day and I thought it was super impressive.

And I'm mostly optimistic about the technology just because generally I'm, as you mentioned, like libertarian about if people are doing something, probably they think it's good for them.

Although I actually don't know if it's the case that if somebody is using TikTok, they would say that they're happy with how much time they're spending on TikTok or something.

So I'm mostly optimistic about it also in the sense that

If we're going to be living in this future world of AGI, we need to be, in order to keep up with that, humans need to be upgrading our capabilities as well with tools like this.

And just generally, there can be more beauty in the world if you can see Studio Ghibli everywhere or something.

I was worried that one of the flagship use cases that your team showed me was I'm sitting at the breakfast table, and on the periphery of my vision is just a bunch of reels that are scrolling by.

Maybe in the future, my AI girlfriend is on the other side of the screen or something.

And so I am worried that we're just removing all the friction between getting totally reward hacked by our technology.

Yeah, how do we make sure, like, I don't know, this is not what ends up happening in five years?