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Dwarkesh Kheterpal

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Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

Going back to the AI conversation, you're mentioning how big of a bottleneck the physical infrastructure can be.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

Related to other open source models like DeepSeq and so forth, DeepSeq right now has less compute than a lab like Meta, and you could argue that it's competitive with the Lama models.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

If China is better at physical infrastructure, industrial scale-ups, getting more power and more data centers online, how worried are you that they might beat us here?

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Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

Premium products attract a ton of fake account signups, bot traffic, and free tier reviews.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

And AI is so good now that it's basically useless to just have a captcha of six squiggly numbers on your signup page.

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Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

Take Cursor.

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Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

People were going to insane lengths to take advantage of Cursor's free credits, creating and deleting thousands of accounts, sharing logins, even coordinating through Reddit.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

And all this was costing Cursor a ton of money in terms of inference compute and LLM API calls.

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Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

Then they plugged in WorkOS Radar.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

Radar distinguishes humans from bots.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

It looks at over 80 different signals from your IP address to your browser to even the fonts installed on your computer to ensure that only real users can get through.

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Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

Radar currently runs millions of checks per week.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

And when you plug Radar into your own product, you immediately benefit from the millions of training examples that Radar has already seen through other top companies.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

Previously, building this level of advanced protection in-house was only possible for huge companies.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

But now with WorkOS Radar, advanced security is just an API call away.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

Learn more at WorkOS.com slash Radar.

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Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

All right, back to Zach.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

So Sam Altman recently tweeted that OpenAI is going to release an open source SODA reasoning model.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

I think part of the tweet was that we will not do anything silly, like say that you can only use it if you have less than 700 million users.

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Mark Zuckerberg — AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

DeepSeq has the MIT license, whereas LAMA, I think a couple of the contingencies in the LAMA license require you to say built with LAMA on applications using it, or any model that you train using LAMA has to begin with the word LAMA.